‘Why Do They Hate Us?’

As far as Muslim propaganda goes this is an excellent example, it has most of the common themes and enough switchbacks to make it appear like the author really wants to like Americans but we simply do not cooperate. I actually enjoy shooting holes in this drivel, let’s begin.
By Mohsin Hamid
Special to The Washington Post
Salt Lake Tribune Article Last Updated: LONDON – Recently, I found myself in Dallas, a place I’d never been before. As a Muslim writer, I felt about going there pretty much the way an American writer might have felt about heading to the tribal areas of Pakistan: nervous, with the distinct suspicion that the locals carried guns and weren’t too fond of folks who look like me.
-Play on the gun carrying Cowboys stereotype, suspicious and potentially dangerous nice move. The addition of the moral comparison to a third world tribesman was brilliant, this guy is very good.
So I was surprised by the extraordinary hospitality I encountered on my trip. And I still remember the politeness with which one elderly gentleman addressed me in a bookshop. He held a copy of my latest novel, The Reluctant Fundamentalist, and examined the face on its cover, comparing it to mine. Then he said, nodding once as if to dip the brim of an imaginary hat: “So tell me, sir. Why do they hate us?”
-I doubt this verbal exchange actually took place as I have never seen an employee of a bookstore recognize an author by face but it works as a great lead in and establishes him as a victim. The western stereotype reinforced with an imaginary hat tip was over the top but the book plug was a nice move.
That stopped me cold. I spent almost half my life in the United States, arriving from Lahore, Pakistan, with my parents in 1974 when I was 3 after my father was accepted to a PhD program at Stanford. I learned to sing “The Star-Spangled Banner” years before I could sing the Pakistani national anthem, played baseball before I could play cricket and wrote in English before I could write in Urdu. My earliest memories are of watching “Star Trek” and “MASH” while my parents barbecued chicken in the back yard. I was an American kid, through and through. Part of me still is.
-Establish credibility as a moderate, toss in I am as American as you are and end with victim hood (part of him remains American), good job.
But when I was 9, I moved back to where I came from. And because where I came from was Pakistan and I was about as all-American as a foreign-born brown boy could be, my perspective a quarter-century later on the question of why “they” hate “us” is perhaps a little more complicated than most.
For one thing, part of me identifies with “they” and part with “us.” For another, growing up in Pakistan in the 1980s let me see firsthand the devastating effects that the best of U.S. intentions can have.
-Here we go now we see the real spin start.
Talk about why so many Muslims hate the United States these days, and you’ll hear plenty of self-flagellation, at least in some quarters of post-9/11 America. I have too much affection for the United States to join in. These people make up the “We deserve to be hated because we’re bad” school of thought, which is simplistic and unhelpful. It is simplistic because there are 300 million different components of the “we” that is America. And it is unhelpful because it ignores so much that is good about the nation.
-Muslims hate America? Who knew? Then why do they insist on coming here? Enough rant let me refocus. Notice he doesn’t participate in the self-flagellation but he did write this article. He is doing a great job of fence setting, is American good or bad?
Part of the reason people abroad resent the United States is something Americans can do very little about: envy. The richest, most powerful country in the world attracts the jealousy of others in much the same way that the richest, most powerful man in a small town attracts the jealousy of others. It will come his way no matter how kind, generous or humble he may be.
-Unnecessary back rub, it distracts from his eventual goal to prove the entire Jihad is out fault. He really should have cut that portion.
But there is another major reason for anti-Americanism: the accreted residue of many years of U.S. foreign policies. These policies are unknown to most Americans. They form only minor footnotes in U.S. history. But they are the chapter titles of the histories of other countries, where they have had enormous consequences. America’s strength has made it a sort of Gulliver in world affairs: By wiggling its toes it can, often inadvertently, break the arm of a Lilliputian.
-Much better, we really are at fault and it happened long ago but we were completely left out of the loop. The global giant crushes the little man this is so sad. The symbolism here is not for American’s but foreigners. We mean to do them no harm but can not help ourselves. A really neat way to paint us as incompetent on a global scale. It doesn’t hold up to scrutiny when you consider few international ventures exist without American involvement but propaganda doesn’t always mean-truth.
When my family moved back to Pakistan, I was given a front-row seat from which to observe one such obscure episode. In 1980, Lahore was a sleepy and rather quiet place. Pakistan’s second-largest city was still safe enough for a 9-year-old to hop on his bicycle and ride around unsupervised.
-Sounds like a great place so far.
But that was about to change. Soviet troops had recently rolled into Afghanistan, and the U.S. government, concerned about Afghanistan’s proximity to the oil-rich Persian Gulf and eager to avenge the humiliating debacle of the Vietnam War, decided to respond. Building on President Jimmy Carter’s tough line, President Ronald Reagan offered billions of dollars in economic aid and sophisticated weapons to Pakistan’s dictator, Gen. Mohammed Zia ul-Haq. In exchange, Zia supported the mujaheddin, the Afghan guerrillas waging a modern-day holy war against the Soviet occupation. With the help of the CIA, jihadist training camps sprung up in the tribal areas of Pakistan. Soon Kalashnikov assault rifles from those camps began to flood the streets of Lahore, setting in motion a crime wave that put an end to my days of pedaling unsupervised through the streets.
-So the USA started the jihad with the CIA? Nice but false, the jihad dates back almost 1400 years. We did not force tribes to fight or move this is their homeland and they were already there. What we are guilty of is assisting the wrong side. In retrospect, we should have helped the soviets commit genocide but again I am losing focus. He should have left out the part where the faithful warriors of Islam greatly increased the crime rate and threatened peaceful Pakistanis. How can such holy men be criminals?
Meanwhile, Zia began an ongoing attempt to Islamize Pakistan and thus make it a more fertile breeding ground for the anti-Soviet jihad. Public female dance performances were banned, female newscasters were told to cover their heads and laws undermining women’s rights were passed. Secular politicians, academics and journalists were intimidated, imprisoned and worse.
-Zia wrote the koran? He invented jihad? Now he is a prophet and a devout Muslim. Wow, we sure had that guy wrong.
One part of this was particularly unpleasant for those of us entering our teens: the angry groups of bearded men who began enforcing their own morality codes. They made going on dates risky, even in a fun-loving city such as Lahore. Meanwhile, a surge of cheap heroin – the currency often used to buy the allegiance of Afghan warlords – meant that Pakistan went from having virtually no addicts when I was 9 to having more than a million by the time I completed high school, according to a lecture that a U.S. drug-enforcement official gave at my school.
People all over the world talk about how things were better when they were young. In Lahore, we got into the habit of talking about how they were better last month.
-Nice we also turned peaceful Pakistanis into drug addicts. I have to hand it to the CIA. I thought you were a bunch of morons now thanks to this article I realize you are all-powerful, devious, effective and very sneaky. I am confused about your goal were you attempting to push out soviets or destroy Pakistanis?
In 1988, Zia died in a suspicious plane crash. The Soviets were driven out of Afghanistan in 1989, shortly before I left Lahore for college in the United States. When I mentioned the final campaign of the Cold War to my fellow freshmen at Princeton, few seemed to know much about it. Eighteen years later, most people I meet in the United States are astounded to learn that the period ever occurred. But in Pakistan, it is vividly seared into the national memory. Indeed, it has torn the very fabric of what, when I was born, was a relatively liberal country with nightclubs, casinos and legal alcohol.
-Clueless American’s ignorant of America’s role in the complete destruction of the old Pakistani party culture and its replacement with what exactly? We changed them from liberals to jihadi? Islam would never have taken root without American pressure? Now that is a serious leap in logic.
The residue of U.S. foreign policy coats much of the world. It is the other part of the answer to the question, “Why do they hate us?” Simply because America has – often for what seemed good reasons at the time – intervened to shape the destinies of other countries and then, as a nation, forgotten those interventions.
-Reinforcement that we are a global danger but it’s not our fault just the evil government. This guy must be a registered democrat.
There is so much about the United States that I admire. So when I speak of that time now, and encounter the pose of wounded innocence that is the most common American response, I am annoyed and disappointed. It is as though the notion of U.S. responsibility applies only within the 50 states, and I have no right to invoke it.
-He is really pushing the we need to take responsibility and guilt theme. Don’t over sell.
How then does someone like me reconcile his affection and frustration? Partly by offering a passionate critique. And partly by hoping for change – by appealing, as the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. did, to what is most attractive about the United States, to what it claims to stand for, to what is best in its nature.
-This is a credibility move-what American can say anything negative about Reverend Martin Luther King Jr? The cleverly veiled insult was cute (what it claims to stand for) switch between insult and compliment. His goal is change, how sweet. Does this change include the benefits of sharia?
Americans need to educate themselves, from elementary school onward, about what their country has done abroad. And they need to play a more active role in ensuring that what the United States does abroad is not merely in keeping with a foreign policy elite’s sense of realpolitik but also with the American public’s own sense of American values.
-Again with the evil government and ignorant American’s theme and we are losing our values. Sad is it not? Thankfully, we have a Pakistani fundamentalist to set us all straight. It is about time that someone offered help to us for a change (sarc)
Because at their core, those values are sound. That is why, even in places where you’ll find virulent anti-Americanism, you’ll also find enormous affection for things American. That’s why Pakistani rock musicians listen to Jimi Hendrix and Nirvana, why Pakistani cities are full of kids wearing blue jeans and T-shirts, and why Pakistanis have been protesting to give their supreme court the same protection from meddling by their president held by its model: the Supreme Court of the United States.
-Pakistanis are jealous, drug addicts who like to party hardy, Doh!
All of which leads us to another, perhaps more fruitful question that Americans ought to consider: “Why do they love us?” People abroad admire Americans not because they back foreign dictators but because they believe that all men and all women are created equal. That concept cannot stop at the borders of the United States. It is a concept far greater than any one nation, no matter how great that nation is. For America to be true to itself, its people must broaden their belief in equality to include the men and women of the world.
-We should give them more stuff and then they will love us, another common theme.
The challenge that the United States faces today boils down to a choice. It can insist on its primacy as a superpower, or it can accept the universality of its values. If it chooses the former, it will heighten the resentment of foreigners and increase the likelihood of visiting disaster upon distant populations – and vice versa. If it chooses the latter, it will discover something it appears to have forgotten: that the world is full of potential allies. I’m one of them. I do not currently live in the United States, but I still believe in its potential for good. And like so many who wonder how our new and more integrated world can be built on a foundation that is humane and just, I look to the land where I, a writer, first learned to write, and allow myself to dream.
-So we should stop insisting on freedom for all and equality of man? Appeasement is our only option, really? Keep dreaming dude.
Mohsin Hamid’s most recent novel is “The Reluctant Fundamentalist.”
29 July, 2007 at 12:23 pm
He’s totally wrong on almost all counts. He’s artfully and somewhat effectively tap-danced around the real reason Americans are hated. He conceded the obvious reason: jealousy, but we got ‘taqiyyah-ed’ when he tried to tell us it’s because for generations our government has been mean to other governments. OK dude. Whatever. The rest of the world hates us because of our ideological differences. Period.
I will concede that America is decadent, excessive, materialistic, and environmentally reckless. These are the qualities that drive the greatest capitalism and most innovative white-collar economy in the world. For decades the US economy has carried the global economy on its shoulders, without it how many millions would have starved, and how many other economies would have failed? The US has given the world computers, the Internet, inconceivable amounts of modern pharmaceuticals and biotechnologies, efficient energies, the automobile, advanced manufacturing technologies, etc, etc, etc. These are all things that the greedy decadent West has given the poor, lazy, ‘morally superior’ third world. They utilize all of these things happily as they plot our demise. This is disgusting. In my disgust I just vomited, where’s a koran when you need one?
The nature of the us that the world dislikes is particularly reprehensible to the Muslim world, which hates personal freedoms, power which is wielded by any other than Muslims, and capitalism. This is why Islam hates the US; we are the leaders of the free world. Islam nations, however, lead the world in fascism, hypocrisy, and intellectual slavery.
Know what else Americans are? We are noble, aggressive, courageous, and free. We help anyone who needs it, and even when it doesn’t go as planned, we stick it out until the end. We give more generously than any nation in the history of the world, even to our enemies (Palestine, North Korea).
One last point. Anything the US has failed at were risks it took to make the world a better place. Show me just one instance where I am wrong on this and I will take every word back. We never stole anything from anyone. We give more than we take a hundred fold. We have nothing to apologize for. God bless the USA.
29 July, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Same mechanism same tactic:
Watch these clips and replace mentally USSR and KGB with islam and jihad (or whatever else you think more appropriate) and you will understand why leftists and islamofascists go arm in arm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UKwcKhsuOo&mode=related&search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmD3nmTuG64&mode=related&search
29 July, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Funny-the thing that struck me most in this article was the part where Zia turned on the Islam. Now THAT’s where Pakistan’s problems began. The US didn’t make him do it-he did it himself. And Zia did that more to strengthen his grip on the country than to build up anti-Soviet sentiment. Zia gambled and lost-once he let the genie of Islamania fully out of the bottle the results were inevitable. Too bad the writer forgot to mention this.
29 July, 2007 at 9:37 pm
“With the help of the CIA, jihadist training camps sprung up in the tribal areas of Pakistan. Soon Kalashnikov assault rifles from those camps began to flood the streets of Lahore, setting in motion a crime wave that put an end to my days of pedaling unsupervised through the streets.”
So, USA helped Muslims to fight Russians ? What is wrong with that ? Why just simply do not say ” thank you , USA”?
USA helping Muslims -it is American fault. USA not helping to Muslims it is … American fault again.
catch 22: listen to them, USA is to be blamed in anyway.