Of course we can…

That’s a lie its part of islams propaganda… If they did so it would only be because of terrorists threatening thier lives.

I have seen that number on islamic websites before. And by the way you aren’t backing up your claims with links. If you can’t back up your claims with proof than your little m ore than a lame propagandist.

muslimah,

According to the Qur’an, Jesus was without sin while Muhammad was a sinner and had to ask for forgiveness. Therefore, Jesus is, by far, the greater of the two. Your own Qur’an confirms that. You follow the lesser of the two…

Also, you are still stuck on thinking that Christians worship three gods; they don’t. They worship ONE GOD that has revealed himself in three separate, but equal ways.

Think about water…

H2O can exist as a liquid, a gas, a solid, a plasma, or a Bose- Einstein condensate. Yet, no matter what state it is in, it is still just H2O.

Think of God as H2O. He can exist as the Holy Spirit, the Father, the Son, etc., yet in the end, he is still God.

BTW – Unless you can cite the verses that have been purposely changed in the Bible, you are just blowing smoke from your hookah.

You keep going on and on about the Bible being changed, but you have provided not even a sliver of a thread of a verse that has supposedly been changed.

I have waited patiently for YEARS for just ONE Muslim to present us with the verses the have supposedly been changed, but NONE of you have been able to do that. If there are so many changes to the Bible, you should be able to produce them. Where are they? Surely you can find them. I mean, if the Bible was changed, there should be some record of that, somewhere… Until you provide those verses that have been changed, your words are meaningless, vain, and without any credibility whatsoever.

Now, I’m not saying that there aren’t a few disputed verses here and there, but those verses are known and have been appropriately noted. I personally own three such Bibles that footnote the disputed verses. Even if we were to remove those verses, there are other verses in the Bible that say essentially the same thing. So, there is NO change in the Bible’s message.

In fact, you could say that the three translations I own are “uncorrupted” Bibles. So, the Bible is NOT corrupted. Corruption is when the text is purposely changed and the changes are hidden – like with the Qur’an.

How do I know the Qur’an is corrupted? Because Aisha admits it was corrupted:

Malik’s Muwatta, Book 8, Number 8.8.26:
Yahya related to me from Malik from Zayd ibn Aslam from al-Qaqa ibn Hakim that Abu Yunus, the mawla of A’isha, umm al-muminin said, “A’isha ordered me to write out a Qur’an for her. She said, ‘When you reach this ayat, let me know, “Guard the prayers carefully and the middle prayer and stand obedient to Allah.”‘ When I reached it I told her, and she dictated to me, ‘Guard the prayers carefully and the middle prayer and the asr prayer and stand obedient to Allah.’ A’isha said, ‘I heard it from the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace.’”
Malik’s Muwatta, Book 8, Number 8.8.27:
Yahya related to me from Malik from Zayd ibn Aslam that Amr ibn Rafi said, “I was writing a Qur’an for Hafsa, umm al-muminin, and she said, ‘When you reach this ayat, let me know, “Guard the prayers carefully and the middle prayer and stand obedient to Allah.”‘ When I reached it I told her and she dictated to me, ‘Guard the prayers carefully and the middle prayer and the asr prayer and stand obedient to Allah.’”

In case you didn’t know, that was Sura 2:238. Obviously, Aisha knew that verse was missing the asr prayer. Who am I to argue with Aisha? Obviously, she would know better than to desecrate Allah’s message by adding to it, so she must be correcting it…

See? Evidence like that is what you need to present to us before we can have a true discussion.

If you don’t, then you are just another mindless muzzie zombie just repeating what you have been told without having done any research on the subject, and we will continue to treat you as such

Normally I would just erase your post, as we generally do not except obvious Islamist propaganda on this site. Today, I made a promise to Muslims not insult Islam and I will honor that promise. I will correct your misconceptions; the Christian God is a trinity; God, the Son and the Holy Ghost, Jesus Christ is all three and not just a human turned prophet. The God you refer to as “Allah” is not based on the same deity. Equally none of the persons mentioned in both the Bible and the Koran are the same men. We have busted the myth of the Koran being a continuation and correction of the Bible long ago.

Now I am being kind and not insulting your beliefs because this day is Holy to our Christian readers. I ask that you grant them the same gift and ask that you suspend your blasphemy for a single day. This day is not scared to Muslims and I understand that but your attempt to discredit our Christian readers on this day proves that you are a mean, cruel and vengeful person. In short, you need to look deep inside yourself and rid yourself of the hate that consumes you. You could learn much from the Christians about tolerance, understanding and goodwill.

Ronin

in comment to your comparison of rich countries and poor countries i say this:
this world is a prison for the believers and a paradise for the unbelievers.

take it and run with it how you like.

in the bible and the quran is moses story and abrahams story to get people to understand that there is only one god whom you should call upon. there are many contradictions in the bible one for instance is the first commandment thou shalt have no other gods before me. but many think jesus is god. he was born from a woman as you and i were. created from god so how can he be that. another is thou shalt have no idols for i am a jealous god but you wear crosses around your neck symbolizing the worship of a prophet who supposedly died for your sins. three is to pray to god whom can only answer prayers but you pray to “his son” you do not and never will recognize god to be the only being worthy of praise and worship. you are lead astray from the straight path because you are blind in seeing what the truth is. christianity is played higher than it should be. Christianity despite setbacks continues to set the standards for personal improvement and charity. are you serious with this statement, you cant possibly be. then you tell me why 300% of christian are converting to islam a day. can you believe that. then do a little more research.

lets do a little more comparison when natives owned the western hemishpere who stole it from them? christians. and when slaves were brought to america what relegion was forced upon them. christianity. remember it was christians who brought a lot of torture and terror to people long before the news said islam did because of greed and differences. when the europeans left europe they did so to have freedom of religion but even they contradicted this by forcing the natives to give up their cultures and traditions (the only thing they knew) to take up theirs. yea they have built this country out of nothing and did an outstanding job doing it. but they built it on lies and deceit. there is no comparison of islam and christianity. we are not a cult we are a religion who takes the worship of god way more serious than any christian ever could.

lets do some ancient history. granted the first bible was in hebrew right? and in order for someone to translate it, a few words are going to be changed here and there and maybe some left out. this happens with any translations. but why would they change whole versus around to fit their liking. if you have no clue as to what im talking about its in history books, on the history channel and the national geographic channel. this is a proven fact. so before you compare christianity with islam do it as whole and not a part. get educated in it and stop being ignorant to it. thats what your ideology is based on ignorance.

one, it was “Prince” Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdul aziz Al-Saud who picked up the
dog and bone “and called Murdoch and said that I was speaking not as a shareholder, but as a viewer of Fox. I said that these are not Muslim riots, they are riots,” Campaign Middle East magazine quoted the prince as saying.

“He investigated the matter and called Fox and within half an hour it was changed from ‘Muslim riots’ to ‘civil riots’.”

I suspect that “Prince” Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdul aziz Al-Saud isn’t Jewish;
can’t think why for the life of me

Anyway, Merry Christmas at this time of celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ,
God’s only begotten Son, who takes away the sins of the world.

Your claim of Christians being reponsible for crime is laughable… Your commentary is little more than propaganda.

You are also wrong to attempt a comparison of religion with islam. It is an apple vs oranges comparison and has no basis in truth. Western religions like Christianity are internal to the believer, individuals decide when and where to better themselves. Everything is about the individuals struggle and it does not rely on oppressive political controls and punishments. Islam controls the follower’s total lifestyle and robs the believer of self-reliance. By combining public governance with an oppressive ideology islam enslaves and indoctrinates, in short it is perpetually stuck in the seventh century. Christianity despite setbacks continues to set the standards for personal improvement and charity. Islamic nations require Christian charities to provide basic services. Despite mega oil riches many muslim nations are slowly starving.

If you want a fair comparison, compare the benefits between western and islamic societies. The western society is built on but not controlled by Democratic values based on the Christian understanding of self reliance and choice. Islamic society is designed to control the masses. The differences are staggering. Western nations have thrived despite setbacks and poor leadership. Islamic societies are proven failures. A quick look at nations requiring help to feed themselves or to stop conflicts shows a who’s-who of islamic nations. They cannot all be the result of poor leadership. The only common denominator of failed islamic nations is the ideology they follow, muslims are a hodge podge of cultures and ethnic groupings linked by a single backwards ideology that has not shown success in 1350 years. In comparison the USA using established democratic principals based around Christians values has built the worlds only surviving super power, holding more wealth than all 57 islamic nations combined.

Continue to fool yourself if you wish, you are already enslaved and I doubt you will ever escape the chains of your cult,

Cheers

Obviously you are a Muslim. Admit it. Only Muzzies blame everything on Jews and Christians.

I don’t play the tu quoque game here. This isn’t about relativism. It doesn’t matter to the discussion if a rape is committed by a Christian or a Martian.

It’s about women being misled by a false religion that blames women for rape and then throws acid on their faces if they don’t cover up.

Your “feelings” on the subject are immaterial.

Salami

Now to bring in some religion i have no preference, but reading and understanding some of these blogs give me some type of perspective on others opinions. doctor, you are speaking of a country that majority of the women cover. as you said 80% have reported it. these are middle eastern countries where the major religion is islam. but what of the crimes reported in america, where the major religion is christianity? these crimes are committed by christians. rapes murders, serial killers, all of those who “have jesus in there lives”. but these stories do not mention what relegious preference they are. and why do you think that is?

the media is ran by jews (they own 90% of television channels and 100% of news channels) whom muslims say are cursed. they have no major problem with christians. so naturally they are going to play muslims down. (all this is beside the point, im just stating the facts that i have learned while i was in college). the fact is that is that harm may come to anyone whether they cover up their bodies or dress exposed. its not going to subside because i live in this country and they live in that country.

but it is very distracting to men when they are supposed to be focusing on certain things (and for these men it happens to be prayer and sleep) and they cannot because there is too much temptation out there. who are we to knock them for speaking the truth in their eyes.

last thing to say before i go out. all men and women need to control themselves. men need to control their desires and look away if it is too much for them to handle. and women need to control the way they desire attention if they cant find the attention within themselves.

The problem is not everyone does.

As for your islamic morality it is really no better.

So, you are blaming the victim and not the rapist, eh?

That’s interesting. It just goes to show how brainwashed you are by your male captors. Oh, they would like you to think that it’s the woman’s fault, because that way they are free to exploit and control women…

If exposing yourself led to rape, then numerous rapes would be occurring every single day at topless beaches and in nudist colonies. Odd, but I don’t recall hearing of any recent rapes at such locales… In fact, I don’t recall any rapes at such a locale. I’m sure they have occurred in the past, but they certainly are rarer than an afro on a frog.

If covering yourself somehow protected you from rape, then there shouldn’t be any rapes occurring in strict Islamic countries. However, such is not the case. In fact, the estimates suggest that rapes occur more often in Islamic countries than westernized countries. Now, I know the crime statistics don’t show this, but, then, the statistics only show those crimes which have been reported.

Since women in Islamic societies are under the delusion that they themselves are responsible for getting raped, most rapes never get reported in such societies because of the shame that is associated with having been raped. Worse yet, even if the women do report the rape, they are subject the Sharia Courts which routinely treat the women as active, willing participants in the rape and usually ends with the woman getting jailed, or worse yet – stoned for adultery.

If dressing conservatively prevented sexual harassment, then how do explain this:

50 Arrested in Egypt for Sexual Harassment

Be sure to note that the men were trying to remove the women’s headscarves. So, the women were covered, yet that did nothing to deter the harassment.

And, this is not just one isolated incident. In Egypt, 80% of Muslim women have been sexually harassed by other Muslim men. Nearly two-thirds of Muslim men admit to sexually harassing women…

CLICK HERE for that article. Be sure to read it!!! Here’s a quote:

“I get harassed 100 times a day. I tried everything to stop it but it doesn’t stop. I wear loose clothes, I don’t wear make up, I spend more than an hour in front of the mirror everyday thinking of ways to hide my body.”

Here is one more article for you that is a MUST read:

Wearing Veils INCREASES Sexual Harassment

My favorite quote is from a lady who covers herself up completely and yet she endures sexual harassment all day long:

“These guys are animals. If they saw a female dog, they would harass it,”

So, covering up DOES NOT stop sexual harassment or rape!

The problem is with the MEN, NOT the WOMEN!!!

Quit blaming the victims!!!

Cheers

Women are to be blamed for rape?

Waaaayyyyy to go muzzies…

You properly demonstrated how much of a backward, idiotic religion-lifestyle-political ’system’ you serve….

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3018766.ece

And “She got her revenge” (Sorry I couldn’t resist….. icy gave me the idea about cutting off penises… ) ( and yes,… they are animals…)

graphic video:

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2007/10/cheating-husband.html

Some of those “alternative” hairdressers even offer pubic hair shaving and design… they should have offered her that kind of job, shaving genitalia of both men and women

http://www.hairchick.com/phr/pubic-hair-designs.php
or
http://www.blogher.org/node/6666

don’t miss the comments on jihadwatch:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018730.php

She must be a plant. She could not of been serious.
I am soooo sure she has dreamed of being a hairdresser for lowly infidels since she was in high school. Yeah right.

The kicker…
“Ms Noah, 19, is claiming religious discriminat ion and suing Ms Desrosiers for more than £15,000 for injury to her feelings, as well as an unspecified sum for lost earnings.”

Hurt feelings. Bo freakin hoo
Lost earnings for a job she never had???
What lunacy!

More nonsense:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23420030-details/Hairdresser+sued+for+religious+discrimination/article.do