Let us be honest a second. Your issue with me is not my lack of knowledge of islam, you are angry because I know too much. Just for clarity like Doc I have studied islam most of my adult life but so what?

No one needed to study nazi propaganda, history or ideology to realize it was a violent, oppressive, and murderous ideology lead by a madman. Almost everything I know about your violent, oppressive, and murderous ideology I learned through Islamic sources. The same sources that many respected Islamic clerics quote.

For years now pompous muslim apologists have tried every angle to discredit me. Common themes include:

I misunderstand, need to study or have a bad translation of Islamic texts.

Only a few misguided/misinformed or bad muslims are the problem.

All religious orders are equally oppressive.

All mainstream religions worship the same God/prophets and have similar values.

I am misguided, wrong a racist or just __________(fill in the blank)

There are many others but I degress. The issue here is none of you can explain away, whitewash or cover up almost 1400 years of a violent, oppressive, and murderous ideology based on the rants of a madman.

Had any one of you made any head way toward modernizing the koran, discrediting the madman mohammed and organizing a real religion based on modern values, I would quit this blog and start one on kayak fishing. Instead I am stuck here explaining why people such as you are just pompous asses spouting lies, half-truths and propaganda.

Good day to you sir.

Hey! Sign me up for that religion! Hehehe

You know what I like most about Amin? I can tell he’s thinking and really puts a lot of thought into what he says.

“Peace” on the other hand is just blowing smoke in an attempt to stop Amin from actually thinking…

But let us not waste our valuable time with doctorbulldog & Ronin

Cheers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Vorilhon

May Allah/God guide you all aright or (oh sorry, since some of you believe that your god is different from Allah/God) may you be guided aright.

Yeah, even Muslims agree that Allah and God are not the same:

Malaysian Muslims Rule Against Christians Using the Word Allah to Mean God.

“Of course it is possible to concoct more of the same against Prophet Moses and Jesus Christ and the Old & New Testaments. But such approach does not fit Islamic morality.”

No, it is NOT possible to concoct more of the same against Jesus!

THAT is why you didn’t!

In fact, I challenge YOU to do the same against Jesus!

Of course, you’re going to be hard pressed to find Jesus asking His Apostle’s to kill His critics, rape women and children, enslave them, etc. etc.

Muhammad, on the other hand… Well, perhaps he was touched in the head:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400:

Narrated Aisha:

Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.

They know very LITTLE about the true teaching of Islam; what they know can probably best be described as ‘copy/past’ and ‘quote out of context’

That is what really pisses me off about you apologists! The moment you encounter someone with a brain, you accuse them of cut&pasting from somewhere else and quoting out of context.

Bullshit!

I have seriously STUDIED ISLAM for over 20 YEARS!

I have NUMEROUS books on Islam sitting right in front of me!

I, like you, once DEFENDED ISLAM!!!!!

But, there comes a point when you can no longer, in all good consciousness, put your blinders on to the cupidity, concupiscence, and evilness of Muhammad and his followers.

Jesus said that you will know them by their fruits. Well, the fruits of Muhammad are murder, rape, lying, pedophilia, kidnapping, slavery, etc. etc.!

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 270: “Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah: The Prophet said, “Who is ready to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Do you like me to kill him?” He replied in the affirmative. So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to him (i.e. Ka’b) and said, “This person (i.e. the Prophet) has put us to task and asked us for charity.” Ka’b replied, “By Allah, you will get tired of him.” Muhammad said to him, “We have followed him, so we dislike to leave him till we see the end of his affair.” Muhammad bin Maslama went on talking to him in this way till he got the chance to kill him.”

Be reminded my friend, Islam is all about Peace:

Bullshit!

ISLAM is all about SUBMISSION!

Always has been, always will. As Ronin likes to say, “don’t listen to what Muslims say, watch what they do…”

Sure, you can try to justify Muhammad’s actions however you wish, but in the end, once you have REALLY studied Islam and gone beyond all the ice cream propaganda, you, like me, will discover that only a fool defends a demonstrably false prophet.

But I think what we have said is sufficient to minimize their damage,

It is not my intent to “damage” anyone, but rather to “repair” the damaged truth.

The truth is, Muhammad was a mass murderer and not a prophet.

“The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men.” (Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464)

I can quote stuff like this all day long. These are not just one time aberrations.

If Islam were truly all about “Peace,” then Muhammad surely would not have murdered so many people…

He was a cult leader, just like a Jim Jones or a David Koresh or a Warren Jeffs.

Don’t drink the Kool-Aid.

Cheers

2-Alphonse de LaMartaine in ‘Historie de la Turquie,’ Paris, 1854 says:
“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad”
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/quote1.html

Notice to brother Amin

Thanks to your excellent job. But let us not waste our valuable time with doctorbulldog & Ronin (and their protagonists). They know very LITTLE about the true teaching of Islam; what they know can probably best be described as ‘copy/past’ and ‘quote out of context’. Still that very LITTLE is, by far, more than what they know about the essence of their own religions, if they have any. They are most probably professional propagandists and are on fulltime propaganda service. They simply want to irritate Muslims so that they can prove or make their point. Sometimes, the right response is not to respond. Of course, as human having feelings, we cannot simply keep quiet. But I think what we have said is sufficient to minimize their damage, and let people read all the arguments and make their own choice. (http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/quote1.html)

May Allah/God guide you all aright or (oh sorry, since some of you believe that your god is different from Allah/God) may you be guided aright.

(sorry, I might not be able to visit or reply to your possible responses; I have no time for this type of discourse)

My dear brothers and sisters in humanity, particularly doctorbulldog & Ronin, have you ever asked or seriously studied what is in this religion that attracts men from all walks of life at all circumstances for over 1400 years, leaving indelible mark on human civilization, having more than 1.5 billion followers worldwide today and still on the rise?! Could it be simply attributed to ‘fanaticism, irrationality, violence, extremism, terrorism and the like? How could a former British Catholic Priest, Idris Tawfiq, who, after knowing more about his religion more than what you know about yours, embraced Islam. Was he fooled by Muslim magic? Maybe you need to enlighten him through his homepage http://www.idristawfiq.com/3-One%20mans.html!

I do not think that anyone with minimal intelligence will subscribe to that simplistic, apologetic and naive idea, except, of course those who take you both as their Gurus. The quick and right answer is that Islam is innate, natural religion of humankind (din al-Fitrah) (Qur’an 30: 30) and the Qur’an is ‘a reminder’ (dhikr) (Qur’an 21: 50; 36: 69; 38: 87; 68: 52; 81: 27) to that innate, natural code of living. The nature of man, that of the universe in which he lives, that of the Religion he practices, and that of the Book sent to him, are all in perfect harmony. That is what where it goes it feels to home, not anathema to (sound) human cultures and civilizations.

Sir George Bernard Shaw in ‘The Genuine Islam,’ (Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936) has the following to say:
“I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity.” (see also http://www.themodernreligion.com/quotations_islamic.htm;
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/quote1.html)

Be reminded my friend, Islam is all about Peace: Peace within human himself/herself, Peace among humans; Peace between human and God; and Peace between human and nature. But it is peace out of strength, not out of foolishness and disgrace.

Let me be clear what I mean by peace. For example, if someone brutally beat you without any serious provocation, you have apparently three immediate reactions/responses: (1) you can do unto him what he did unto you; (2) you can tolerate, forgive and turn away: (3) or you can ask him to do more of the same action again. Where does Islam stand in this scenario? Islam permits the first choice but encourages the second choice; the third choice has no place in Islamic morality whatsoever. It is not peace but humiliation and stupidity which even animal can hardly tolerate! In other words,

Muslims are highly encouraged TO FORGIVE BUT ALSO ALLOWED to use force against non-Muslims WHOSE TORTURE BECOMES UNBEARABLE.

Based on your shortsightedness, uncritical and scientific methodology, you can quote my previous statement by deleting words with uppercase, replacing it with three dots ‘…’ and retaining only words with lower case in order to read into my word the value you believer in. As time passes by, you or your puppet disciple may omit the three dot in order to make the quotation ‘smarter’ and ‘straightforward’. Eventually you make my word appear as “Muslims are highly encouraged to use force against non-Muslims”.

Of course, those who read the statement or trace the event from the start to the finish will easily know how much you have twisted my statement and how absurd your conclusion is. As for those who look through your spectacle, they will be misguided. And this, I suspect, is what you have been truly trained and made for.

CONTINUED ….

Peace be unto you all!

I happed to be driven to this blog only to find this baseless accusation against Islam, Muslims and Prophet Muhammad. According to doctorbulldog & Ronin, Islam IS all about everything that can be conceived evil or vicious in any sense and IS NOT anything that can be conceived in any sense good or virtuous. WHY ALL THIS ISLAMPHOBIA?

Besides your video footage, I could quote from both of you the following statements: “average muslim nut job has probably committed at least one of those [i.e. elimination of entire races, cultures or peoples] or soon will”; “mohammed a man who if alive today would be guilty of any number of crimes against humanity, murder, slavery, rape, pedophilia and genocide;” “mohammed was a poor choice for a prophet and a worse role model… islam will continue to be a death cult”; Muhammad murdered 900 Jewish men …” “I have never believed mohammed to be anything other than a criminal”; “By today’s standards mohammed would be considered an insane and murderous man” “to your false prophet, Muhammad”; “Islam is an oppressive ideology disguised as a religion”; and “[Islam’s] murderous pedophiles.”

Of course it is possible to concoct more of the same against Prophet Moses and Jesus Christ and the Old & New Testaments. But such approach does not fit Islamic morality.

Now let people of sound thinking judge who is truly terrorist (not necessarily only by action but also by words and the ‘value’ you adhere to”? Is it we Muslims in the way we address you in this forum or you in the way you address and portray us in those phrases cited above? Let people of sound understanding decides.

True, you are presumably saying all this out of freedom of thought and expression. But you must remember that all freedom has its limit and that is why we have the rule of law to restrain and redistribute justly. You need to remember that “your right to swing your arm ends where your arm meets someone else’s nose.”

Ironically, to your disadvantage, such propaganda encourages more people to appreciate and even embrace Islam. Against all odds, Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world today. It quickly spreads when it is persecuted and oppressed. My friend, you simply cannot understand! Just see how many people will be drawn to these discussions through your footage and propaganda. I trust a sound human thinking and I believe a grater majority will make a right decision and a right course of thought and action, thanks to your provocative video!

Islam never condones violence in making its point and Muslim have no problem in coexisting with non-Muslims. In fact, the non-Muslims, particularly Jews were in Medinah even before the arrival of Prophet Muhammad. After Medinan was Islamized, some of Jews embraced Islam, others persisted in Judaism and remained so for many decades after the prophet passed awar. Egypt was under the Muslim rule for more than 1000 years and even it was the centre of Fatimid Dynasty. The Egyptian Copts of Coptic Church were there before Islam, during the Muslim civilization and still they are there until the present time (probably contributing to 10% of the Egyptian population). If it is true that Islam spread by sword, all Jews will be killed in Medina and no Egyptian Copt will be alive during this long history.

A non-Muslim historian known as De Lacy O’ Leary writes: “History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever accepted.” (Islam at the Crossroads, London, 1923, p. 8; http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/quote1.html).

It is not that Muslims live to reluctantly recognize the existence and the right of others (as was the case Christians). Right from their scripture, they have been introduced to people of other faiths including Jews, Christians, Atheists, Materialists and many more of sort. The provision on how to coexist have been well articulated in no ambiguous terms. Whether one is ready to read it with an open, unbiased mind is a different question!

If you have time for intellectual discourse on who is truly terrorist you may refer to George Galloway’s interview at http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/07/18295223.php (never mind it is less than 10 minutes; much shorter than yours)

What you do not know is that Islam is a strong religion and its strength lies in its simplicity not in obscurity. It appeals to the strong and the weak, the rich and the poor. It attracts the illiterates and appeals more to the intelligentsias. It spreads at times of prosperity and at times of adversity. It appeals to those outside the prison and to those inside it even appeals to those at war zone. Through the immigration and conversion, the populations of Muslim population in the West is increasing (and this is obviously your utmost fear).
CONTINUED ….

Hey Amin, Islam is not a race.

I do not normally use Islamic propaganda (texts) to argue against islam, only because I hate reading that crap and common sense easily wins any argument with a muslim propagandists. After years of people like you stopping by here spouting the same old tired and ridiculous islamic propaganda not one of you has ever won a single argument, changed my mind about minions nor converted a single reader. I do have to give apologists credit; many seem to believe they will somehow explain away almost 1400 years of history.

What I would like to know is why you bother? Does it bother you that so many people see through islam and measure it against its murderous pedophiles lack of character or that it can not stand up to modern standards of human decency and rights?

All I have to do to beat clowns like you is demand proof. In almost 1400 years no muslim nation has built a single working economic base, none have modern human rights and none have basic freedoms, like freedom of religion. In short, I just call the bullshit flag every time one of you stops by. Many of you apologists talk a good line but you always leave stinking.

I’m impressed with how much time you spend digging in traditional Islamic literature to find any flaw you can exploit for your cause….

Ronin is just a typical racist, while the others are not worth mentioning…but you, you are the real deal…

I’ll come back to you as soon as I have time… so until then..

Be serious; if this guy was anyone else other than Muhammad, you would be calling him a pedophile and demanding his arrest - especially if he was eyeing your daughter…

To have to defend such concupiscent behavior - especially that of a supposed prophet - is just sad…

No matter how you try to semantic slice it in a feeble attempt to justify it, sex with a prepubescent girl is just wrong!

In fact Aisha was 6 years old when Muhammad (an old pervert of about 50 years old) married her under protest from her father.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18 - The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “But I am your brother.” The Prophet said, “You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.”

She was 9 years old when he had sex with her.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236: Narrated Hisham’s father: “Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old. ”

Tabari VII:7 “The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six.”

Even other folks knew Muhammad was marrying Aisha a little young - even for back in those days:

Tabari IX:128 “When the Prophet married Aisha, she was very young and not yet ready for consummation.”

Tabari IX:131 “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old.”

And, Aisha wasn’t the only child that Muhammad had the hots for:

Ishaq:311 “The Apostle saw Ummu’l when she was a baby crawling before his feet and said, ‘If she grows up, I will marry her.’ But he died before he was able to do so.”

As the saying goes, “past performance is a good indicator of future trends.” So, six years old is “grown up” and marrying age for Muhammad…

And, that DOES fit the definition of a pedophile! You altered the definition of a pedophile to say, “exclusive attraction for children,” when, in fact pedophiles are more often than not also attracted to older women as shown by the fact that many pedophiles are married to age appropriate wives…

Earlier you said that you heard about all those pedophile rings in the West getting busted almost every day. Now, I’m willing to overlook your exaggeration, but should the married pedophiles be excluded from prosecution? I think not!

So, pulling in the other wives of the false prophet Muhammad in an attempt to obfuscate and deflect attention from his pedophilia is just sophistry.

Also, if we are to believe the Islamic scholars, marrying 12 year olds after killing their fathers must have been alright with him and Allah:

Tabari VIII: 187 “The (sixty-two-year old) Messenger of Allah married Mulaykah. She was young [12] and beautiful. One of the Prophet’s wives came to her and said, ‘Are you not ashamed to marry a man who killed your father during the day he conquered Mecca?” She therefore took refuge from him” [She fled]

Muhammad’s twisted pedophilia even managed to work its way into the Qur’an as it allows for marriage to prepubescent girls. It’s buried in the section on waiting “periods” for divorce:

“O Prophet, when you divorce women, divorce them when they have reached their period. Count the period, and fear God your Lord. Do not expel them from their houses, nor let them go forth, except when they commit a flagrant indecency. Those are God’s bounds; whosoever trespasses the bounds of God has done wrong to himself. Thou knowest not, perchance after that God will bring something new to pass… As for your women who have despaired of further menstruating, if you are in doubt, their period shall be three months; and those who have not menstruated as yet. And those who are with child, their term is when they bring forth their burden. Whoso fears God, God will appoint for him, of His command, easiness.” Qur’an Sura 65:1, 4 Arberry translation.

Bottom line, it IS NOT nor has it EVER been appropriate for ANY 50 year old to marry a 6 year old girl and then screw her when she’s ONLY 9 years old!

But, you kiss the ass of someone who did, and then go about blindly justifying his perverse concupiscence and evilness to the damnation of your own soul.

And, I say that not out of spite, but out of concern for you and your fellow Muslims who have been lead astray by a false prophet.

Cheers

1) Applying today’s social norms to societies which lived thousands of years ago is either total stupidity and nonsense or total misleading and just a pure propaganda.
1a) Then why does most of the islamic world continue to do it? It would be impossible to find an islamic country (and increasingly western ones) that doesn’t allow child brides, honor killings and using children to pay off depts. Which is really just slavery re-named.

2) The definition of pedophile in dictionaries is the adult who has exclusive sexual attraction towards children. Does this apply to a single marriage that was political more than anything else? The prophet had 7 wives with all of them being old women either widows or divorced. A pedophile would take all his wives of young girls if he had the power to do so.
2a) At least we do agree that mohammed was a pedophile. Since he did copulate with a nine year old child, he fits your definition and mine. It doesn’t matter if it was one time, a hundred times nor does the number of victims matter, the definition stands, a pedophile takes advantage of a child for his or her own sexual desire. Since nine is not the age of consent, old mo was both a pedophile and a rapist. Basically, he was a freak.

3) It was totally normal for young girls to get married when they hit puberty and age difference was not an issue at that time even in Europe. It was a globally acceptable social norm. Again Islam set the extreme limit to be puberty and left it flexible to set higher limits according to place and time.
3a) You do realize that ancient history is a piss poor excuse and should never be used as an example for today right? The societal norms of yesteryear are not an excuse to break today’s laws nor to ignore them. The vast numbers of muslim’s in europes prisons are not an accident and the numbers will continue to climb as western laws trumps sharia.

-The biggest issue I have with muslims tossing out the moral equivalency argument is how ironic it is. islam is perpetually stuck in the seventh century and modern decency standards as well as human rights are surrendered by muslims to an antiquated ideology that oppresses them and others. If you want to live life in the past fine, have at it but do not whitewash over islams crimes and tell me changing the color somehow magically helps. Equally, do not be surprised when modern man resists. If you really want people to respect islam then fight against the seventh century and work hard to at least enter the eighth.

I hope this clarifies the situation although racists have no logic or sense except hatred and lies after lies. Personally I couldn’t care less about their opinions, but I wrote this for the people deceived by the propaganda and have no clue about history.

-The only thing your explanation accomplished was to show you’re just another apologist unable to come to grips with the failure called islam or its incompatibility with the twenty first century. A brief look at Islamic countries doesn’t bode well for muslims, most are complete failures and could not exist or continue to function without outsiders.

-I wrote this for you, not for the readers for you personally. You seem like an intelligent person, have you ever asked yourself why people like doc and I are disgusted by your ideology and the people who defend it. Have you asked yourself why we spend so much time fighting against it? Have you compared the success of a single modern country and compared it against Islamic countries centuries older?

-If I were a religious man I could make the case that God has and will continue to punish muslims for their crimes against humanity.

This talking about pedophilia allowed by Islam has became an old Cliché. Islam in all its social laws applies two tiers, one tier sets the final limits that should not be crossed, and the second tier is the limit set by society norms at any time.

Applying this to marriage, the first tier is the minimum age limit, which is the age of puberty for both male and female. The second tier is the age limit set by society norms, which in today’s societies in 21st century is 16-18 yrs old (with difference from country to another).

If we look back few decades ago, the minimum society norm for marriage was 12 yrs old. In USA and Europe, about 50 years ago, it was legal that 12 yrs old girls get married. Now society norms has changed and the age of consent became 18 yrs in most USA states and European countries.

This is regarding formal marriage. Sex without marriage is widely common in western societies nowadays for ages as young as 12yrs old, but with the condition of the sex partner being at close age.

In ancient societies, the minimum norm for marriage was the age of puberty, and it was normal and common for girls as young as 9-10 yrs old to get married when they hit their puperty.

The prophet’s wife, Aysha, who all the fuss is made about by the hatred propaganda, was engaged to another man before Islam. When her father, Abu Baker, the prophets most trusted friend became a muslim, he asked her fiancé if he still would like to marry her after all her family became muslims. The non-muslim man said no he no longer wants to marry her. She was the last daughter of Abu Baker who was still un-married. The prophet wanted to strengthen his ties with his trusted friend and deputy so he proposed to marry her. Historians are in dispute about her age when she got married, but the most common is 9 to 12 yrs old.

This is the brief story of that marriage, note the following points:

1) Applying today’s social norms to societies which lived thousands of years ago is either total stupidity and nonsense or total misleading and just a pure propaganda.

2) The definition of pedophile in dictionaries is the adult who has exclusive sexual attraction towards children. Does this apply to a single marriage that was political more than anything else? The prophet had 7 wives with all of them being old women either widows or divorced. A pedophile would take all his wives of young girls if he had the power to do so.

3) It was totally normal for young girls to get married when they hit puberty and age difference was not an issue at that time even in Europe. It was a globally acceptable social norm. Again Islam set the extreme limit to be puberty and left it flexible to set higher limits according to place and time.

I hope this clarifies the situation although racists have no logic or sense except hatred and lies after lies. Personally I couldn’t care less about their opinions, but I wrote this for the people deceived by the propaganda and have no clue about history.

Muslim leaders welcomed Falconer’s switch to Islam.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/04/07/paedophile-changes-name-and-converts-to-islam-in-jail-86908-20375133/

Pedophiles exist in EVERY culture. In the West, they are considered the scourge of society and every attempt is made to hunt them down and lock them up like the scum they are; unlike Islamic societies that actually worship a pedophile as a prophet and use his example as an excuse for raping little children while Sharia Law turns a blind eye….

IN RE:: Racism, hatred, and massive war crimes:

Oh, I’m sorry, for a second, I thought you were talking about Muhammad…

So, if you think such things are so EVIL, then why do you give the false prophet Muhammad a free pass on such atrocities???

IN RE: Muslims more Christian than the West and Christianity a twisted Roman polytheistic version:

Now, that’s just an outrageous claim. Are you telling me that Muhammad used the Christian Bible to validate himself and then afterwards, the Christians decided to corrupt the New Testament? Or, did Muhammad use a corrupted version of the New Testament to lay claim to his prophet status?

See, it doesn’t make sense that Muhammad would use the New Testament as verification if the Christians were following a twisted Polytheistic Roman version…

Besides, we know through the stories swiped by Muhammad for inclusion in his un-holy Qur’an, that he was using the Gospel of Thomas for reference…

IN RE: Most Westerners do not believe there is a God:

Gee, that’s an odd statement… Which is it? Are Western Nations, as you have stated previously, “Christian Nations” or are they Atheist Nations?

Make up your mind… Or, perhaps they have a wave-particle duality…

Well, I have to run. Thanks for stopping by, again. I was hoping you would.

Cheers

We hear about police raids on pedophillic rings, in the news almost everyday and all of them are western. Being in Europe, Australia, USA, Russia, or else the only common factor is being western. thousands captured for online child pornography and all of them westners. what about sex tourism in southeast asia, again all are westners. what about white slavery and mass prostitution traficking networks, also westners.

Add to that racism, hatred and massive war crimes, and you get the fact that

West = Evil. period.

Actually muslims are more christians than western nations. Jesus lived on our land, and so did most of the prophets, moses, abraham, etc. we know the true religions from the fake ones…what you have as religion is a twisted roman polytheist version of christianity…nothing more, let alone the fact that most westners doesn’t even believe there is God!!!

There is a big difference between one man and the so-called role model for an entire cult.

Islam is the only ideology that encourages pedophilia, especially at such high levels.

Think for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZcCYg48KtI