Fight over border fence – environmental waivers could reach Supreme Court

Doc asked me to comment on this article. That was risky, as he never knows where I will go with my comments (until he reads them). So here we go. Now let’s start with a glaring attack of the obvious – doing nothing will solve nothing and a fence will never stop everyone.

The goal of a super sized fence has never been to trap some people and some animals on one side of the border and some on the other. Are environmental concerns more or less important than human life? Will the fence pay for itself over time by limiting the billions we spend on illegals? Will building a fence cause a collapse of Central and South American economies or force them to deal with the hard issues driving their people north?

I’d like to discuss those issues and more but someone is spinning the fence as an environmental issue and not a human one so ….

By DAVID McLEMORE, 14 April, 2008, The Dallas Morning News
The U.S. Supreme Court may get a chance to join the fractious debate over building fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border.

A legal challenge by two environmental groups seeking to limit enhanced Department of Homeland Security powers to suspend more than 30 laws to build the fence is gathering support in Congress.
-This is the same congress whose failure to enforce the laws caused this problem to get out of control.

But at least one constitutional expert said that although the legal challenge underscores the broad array of powers Congress has delegated to Homeland Security, “environmentalists face an uphill battle.”
-It seems every dam, bridge, highway and power plant has drawn flak from environmentalists. The last time I checked the entire idea of a democracy was majority rule. That said, governments that are not closely watched tend to get out of control. Our congress is proof we failed to carefully watch them.

“There is a legitimate legal gripe here, in that there are serious questions about how much power Congress can delegate to other branches of government,” said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law authority at George Washington University Law School.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced the waiver of about three dozen environmental laws to expedite construction of the border fence in Texas and Arizona on April 1.
-Agree or disagree he made a decision, that makes him rare among politicians

Fourteen House Democrats, including Homeland Security Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and seven other committee chairmen then said they would file friend-of-the-court briefs asking the Supreme Court to take up the lawsuit on whether the department had overstepped constitutional limits.

“This blanket waiver of laws like the Clean Air Act and the Safe Drinking Water Act is a clear and disturbing abuse of the secretary’s discretion,” said U.S. Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., chairman of the House Energy and Commerce committee. “Congress’ efforts to seek justification for this waiver from DHS have been stonewalled, which leads me to believe none exists.”

U.S. Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Dallas, disagrees, saying continued illegal immigration and violence is a greater “risk to good conservation policies.”

“For far too long, the border fencing project has been hijacked by bureaucratic red-tape policies that fail to make our border any safer or cleaner,” he said. “… I fully support Secretary Chertoff’s decision to prioritize the security of our nation over procedural preferences and the rule of law over regulatory roadblocks.”
-I would like to see the issue solved by committee; gaps are easier to watch and control than miles of dessert, animals and water could freely flow and we could increase our security. The solution to any problem starts by identifying the problem.

Unlimited power

The most recent challenge by the environmental groups – the Sierra Club and Defenders of Wildlife – to Mr. Chertoff’s power stems from their 2007 federal lawsuit alleging that Homeland Security’s use of waivers violated the Constitution’s separation of powers.

A federal court ruled against the groups in December, noting that Mr. Chertoff had done what Congress had given him the power to do. In March, the environmentalists filed a petition for writ of certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court.

It was the only venue left. Thanks to a rider attached to the Real ID act enacted in 2005, Congress gave Homeland Security almost unlimited power to waive any laws necessary to build the fence.

Congress also denied oversight by federal appeals courts to any challenges, except for a request to the Supreme Court to review.

“We are pleased to see members of Congress getting involved in challenging this unconstitutional waiver authority,” said Oliver Bernstein, spokesman for the Sierra Club. “And we would hope that action leading to revocation of the authority will help our case in the Supreme Court.”
-Unless those attempting to stop the fence are offering another solution they are part of the problem and not the solution.

‘Waiver happy’

In his announcement of the most recent waivers, Mr. Chertoff said that Homeland Security remains committed to environmental responsibility and that the agency “is neither compromising its commitment to responsible environmental stewardship nor its commitment to solicit and respond to the needs of state, local and tribal governments, other agencies of the federal government and local residents.”

He stressed that his agency will continue to work closely with the Department of Interior and other federal and state resources management agencies to ensure that impact to the environment and cultural and historic artifacts is properly analyzed and minimized.
-Good, so what’s the problem?

But the size and scope of the use of waivers to clear the path for construction of the border fence is virtually unprecedented, Dr. Turley said.
-A meaningless excuse. We built highways across the country. We had to get the same types of waivers for a much bigger area and across many different types of eco-systems.

More troubling, he added, is the apparent dismissal of due process as “endless debate or protracted litigation.”

Mr. Chertoff has said the waivers are necessary because “criminal activity at the border does not stop for endless debate or protracted litigation.”
-Great point, criminal illegals are attacking American citizens daily, something has to be done to protect them. A fence may not stop criminals it but it will slow them down and force them into smaller areas.

But Dr. Turley said Congress has in recent years “become almost waiver happy.”
“They see it as a form of no-cost legislating,” he said. “But there is no evidence Congress considered the implications of giving Homeland Security such broad waiver power.”
-“Congress considered” is an oxymoron.

There are indications that Congress may be trying to regain some of the authority it gave away.
-I’d like congress to refund some of my money they wasted on pork, guess we are both SOL.
Conservation bill

U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., has written a bill known as the Borderlands Conservation and Security Act that would repeal the ability of DHS to waive health and environmental laws while including border protections.
And it’s drawing support in Congress, including from U.S. Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., and eight Texas members of Congress.
-Write down those names folks and if a criminal illegal harms you or your family consider sending them a heart felt letter to let them know how you felt.

“It is unprecedented that a single person can be above the law without any judicial appeal or remedy,” Mr. Blumenauer said. “And it is an absurd claim that he must waive the Safe Drinking Water Act and Clean Air Act, to name a few, in order to build this border fence.”
-If no one is above the law enforce our immigration laws.

Mr. Grijalva said he will hold hearings on the impact of the waivers April 28 at the University of Texas-Brownsville.
-Victim families I encourage you to attend and ask them why a jackrabbit is more important than you are.

“My legislation does not impede or deny border security but it restores confidence in this government to uphold laws as it pursues security,” he said.
-Which, btw is a legitimate job of any government.

Meanwhile, U.S. Sen. Jeff Bingaman D-N.M., sent letters asking Mr. Chertoff and Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne to justify the waivers.
-Elections folks, remember to vote the next chance you get. If you want security for your family vote for the fence along with its supporters, if jackrabbits are more important to you-vote to leave people like Bingaman in office.

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8 Comments on “Fight over border fence – environmental waivers could reach Supreme Court”

  1. velvethammer Says:

    I don’t suppose the millions of illegal alien wannabes traipsing across the desert leaving behind thousands of pounds of refuse has any affect on the environment what so ever.
    [roll eyes]

    Let’s not forget the using of the desert floor and streams as toilets and bathtubs.

    Completely and utterly harmless. No health concerns there. Fecal matter gaining access to ground water is fine and dandy. No worries. /sarc

    Heh. I am surprised there aren’t already state of the art rest stops built all along the Mexico/US immigrant route. Hell why not Muslims have been given foot baths. When all they needed is wet wipes.

  2. michael Says:

    there has got to be a better way to protect the borders. People do not realize how much WE THE PEOPLE pay for their health care alone! Billions each year! Why can’t they protect the borders with armed forces I think a few hundred dead immigrants might send the message to do it right or not at all. I am not saying they can’t come, but last I checked there is a procedure to this. Who knows. personally i think the government needs an enema to clean out and start fresh eh?

  3. Kevin Says:

    Or maybe there is the fact the illegal immigrants actually commit less crimes than do American citizens. Or that many voluntarily pay income taxes which contribute back to the economy. Rather than building a wall, giving illegal immigrants citizenship would have them all start paying into our economy and practically end our deficit overnight.

    Why is there so much worry about illegal immigration, it is absolutely necessary for our economy to function! It is because our economy is centered around growing population meaning and without this immigration it wouldn’t be increasing but decreasing. I’m all for increasing quotas to allow more people to come here legally (and thus not illegally) but with our current process it necessitates illegal immigration.


  4. Kevin,

    Blow your hookah smoke somewhere else.

    There are over 10,500,000 illegal immigrants in the U.S.

    Illegal Immigrants account for 6.1% of the crimes committed in the U.S. each year; imposing a cost of over $24,000,000,000.00 (that’s BILLION) a year!

    That definitely offsets ANY gain that could possibly have been made by illegals paying income taxes – which MOST DO NOT!

    The rest of your argument is just more Libtard sophistry. Not even worth my time to eviscerate.

    I’m sure Ronin or one of our other readers would be more than happy to set you straight.

  5. Ronin Says:

    “I’m sure Ronin or one of our other readers would be more than happy to set you straight”

    Actually, Doc, I figure any Obama troll who is desperate and arrogant enough to think a last minute push will change anyone’s mind is unworthy of my time. Tomorrow the rest of the people will speak and someone will be very disappointed.

    If McCain loses, no one will over react.

    If Obama loses, riots and madness will rule. Granted only in a few places but the stage will be set. His divinity will be busted – an insult many cannot stand for.

    They cannot accept him as a mere mortal. I just cleaned my weapons and tonight and the next few days all the dogs will be out, off leash and just a wee bit hungry. I doubt they will find this place but I can dream. Besides, if they do find it, I will give them change they can believe in.

  6. jose Says:

    i think all you rednecks should go marry each other cousins and have ur retarded kid

  7. velvethammer Says:

    I think if you are an illegal you should go back out the in door and come back in the legal way. BTW The “redneck” thing was worn out long ago. What no original thoughts????

    Heh…Didn’t think so.


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