Islam the drug
You have to love liberals and their belief that somehow programs alone can erase all the community and parental support to terror that is drilled into these “addicted” children.
Lucy Adams, 28 June, 2008, The Herald
Islamic extremism should be regarded as a potential addiction for vulnerable young people in the same way as alcohol, drugs or gambling, according to Scotland’s counter-terrorism coordinator.
-Granted muslims rarely show individual thought and are normally controlled by the group think as are most cults. However, that doesn’t make an addiction. The other “addictions” listed are directly caused by an individual desire gone horrible wrong. Islam is not a choice as most muslims are born into the religion. I have never heard of a single program which can “cure” a muslim.
Allan Burnett wants to introduce rehabilitative measures similar to addiction support to prevent youngsters from becoming radicalised by fundamentalists, instead of sending them to prison.
-It is time for Scots to crush this idea as it runs contrary to the law. Either this “addict” committed a crime or they did not. Islam and individual muslims should be held accountable just like anyone else. No special treatment, no quarter. This program is an admission by the Scots that they are in over their heads and are desperate.
Speaking on the eve of the first anniversary of the Glasgow airport attack, Mr Burnett told The Herald that he wants to develop restorative justice and early intervention initiatives for young people as part of the strategy to stop future attacks.
-Easy to do, monitor all mosques and deport the imams who teach conventional islam.
The Assistant Chief Constable of Fife and the country’s terrorist czar is clear that there will be no leniency for those committing acts of serious violence.
-But minor crimes are ok?
However, for young people on the cusp of being led astray by extremist propaganda, he believes the emphasis should be on prevention. For that to work, he wants to build the trust of parents and the wider community so that if they come forward with concerns, their children will not be automatically penalised.
-Uh, they are all innocent victims. I have heard that somewhere before.
“One of the things we are trying to do is early intervention, which we would use in other areas of behaviour to put a stop to it,” he said. “Just like any other perversion, the primary people who will stop (radicalisation) are parents. It happens with people concerned about their kids drinking, taking drugs or gambling. It happens right across the board and we shouldn’t be surprised that sometimes parents don’t have the knowledge or the skill to intervene in a positive way.
-Name one muslim parent anywhere in the entire world who has approached authorities because some imam was radicalizing them. Just one, name um. Come on out of over a billion minions you can not come up with an example? The only time you ever see a muslim parent whine and complain is after their darling child has been captured or killed.
“When concerned parents come to the authorities, whether it be the school, social work or the police, then we have to look at suitable ways to support the parents and their children. I have no doubt that the answer to some of this will resemble what we do with other addictions or perversions. There may be a larger religious input to it, but religion often plays a part in helping with other addictions.
-Comparing a cult like islam with a normal religion is self defeating. Apple vs oranges arguments never have any merit and can cause a false since of security. Treat religion as religion and crimes as a criminal act.
“Our interest is not in a prison sentence because the only effect that will have is to deter the parents from coming to us again and will have the same effect on the broader community. A much more lenient disposal may be appropriate in certain situations, especially when we can guarantee the support of parents.”
-Hear that minions? You can stop terrorism. You have to give up that old islam thang but what the hell? The Scots will reward you for it.
Mr Burnett said that the public needed to be aware of the difference between criminality and young people starting to looking at extremist websites.
-Really, do you think looking at child pornography online is different than being a pedophile?
He is keen to look at some of the preventative projects being piloted in England and Wales, to see how they could be implemented in Scotland.
-Prison works, deportation works, DNA sampling works, mosque monitoring works and cameras everywhere works-look into those.
Last week, senior police officers revealed that a 12-year-old boy had been referred to the Channel Project after downloading Jihadist beheading videos and circulating them around his school.
-I guess if he was a 12 year old Christian kid it would still be just an addiction problem?
The pilot project, operated by West Yorkshire, the Metropolitan and Lancashire police forces, has been running for nine months and has already had 124 referrals. None has been prosecuted so far.
Sir Norman Bettison, Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, said: “Throwing the book at them in terms of the Prevention of Terrorism Act would be complete overkill. We are not talking about criminal actions. We are talking about vulnerable kids.”
-You are talking about indoctrination into the worlds most violent cult, it starts early at home and is facilitated by the community and the houses of ideological reinforcement some times referred to as mosques and madrassas.
Osama Saeed, chief executive of the newly formed Scottish-Islamic Foundation, said last night: “The biggest thing the Muslim community must do is get on with normal business, rather than jump up and down about terrorism per se.
-Sure, ignore it and it will just go away, great plan, ackmed.
“For example, the programmes which we run for young Muslims aren’t billed as anti-radicalisation’ programmes. They are about training those who attend not just about what their faith is, but how they can engage as active citizens.
-Citizens of the ummah or Scotland?
“It would also be useful for the police to outline where the dividing line lies between someone who can be put back on the straight and narrow and someone who has veered into terrorist criminality, and therefore needs to be prosecuted to the full severity of the law.
-The job of the police is crime prevention or prosecution of criminals they should never get into the indoctrination or de-programming roles. They are a deterrent not a social club.
Successive Terrorism Acts and offences such as glorification’ have made this very hazy.”
Mr Saeed also said that the foundation, which was launched on Thursday, supports a state-funded Islamic school and not state funding to teach young people Islamic religion and law, as was reported in The Herald yesterday.
-Are you sure? Do they teach a non violent form of islam or do they still teach the worlds best known pedophile is a role model? The only moderate form of islam has to first acknowledge that mohammed was a piss poor choice to make prophet and that islam as currently practiced needs to be modernized and the koran tossed in the trash and a better book written.
28 June, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Ronin said in reference to kids looking at extremist websites:
“Really, do you think looking at child pornography online is different than being a pedophile?”
Good point!
Also, as I was reading the article and Ronin’s comments, I couldn’t help but wonder, since they are comparing Jihadism with drug abuse and alcoholism, wouldn’t that old rule of psychiatric thumb apply: “Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic?”
If so, then perhaps the counselors at the Jihadi rehabilitation center might want to keep that in mind and flag their “patients” for special “observation” from local law enforcement. You know, just to make sure they stay on the straight and narrow road to recovery and all….
Cheers
28 June, 2008 at 10:50 pm
* people concerned about their kids drinking, taking drugs or gambling
OK, here we have:
Gambler’s Help Line FREECALL 1800 156 789
Family Drug Support Helpline 1300 368 186
Alcohol and Drug Information Service – 1300 13 1340
Now all we need is False Prophet Helpline – 1800 NO MO MO
29 June, 2008 at 9:45 am
Another point is that they are using Karl Marx’s view that religion is an opiate of the masses. Which of coarse is a typical view for those in the religion of secular humanism.
29 June, 2008 at 10:52 am
Senor Doeboy,
Good observation.
Cheers
29 June, 2008 at 11:15 am
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