St. Louis Alderman Quincy Troupe calls on residents to carry handguns for safety

Yup, Alderman Quincy Troupe is one of the few Democrats who is still a REAL Democrat and not just some Commie Libtard in sheep’s clothing!  He has long championed 2nd Amendment rights here in Missouri and St. Louis.

By Jake Wagman
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
12/02/2008

ST. LOUIS — Alderman Charles Quincy Troupe’s neighborhood has seen nine homicides in 10 months this year, more than all but one other section of the city.

With gunplay wreaking havoc on his ward, Troupe thinks he has found an answer: citizens arming themselves.

The alderman is pleading with constituents to get guns of their own — and learn how to use them. Troupe, who represents a swatch of north St. Louis, is encouraging residents to apply for concealed weapons permits so they can start carrying a firearm.

The city’s new police chief, among others, worries that introducing even more guns into high-crime areas is a recipe for greater turmoil, not less.

[What a load of carp!!!  When criminals know that their intended victims are armed, they ALWAYS move on.    One need look no farther than Kennesaw, Georgia, where guns are MANDATORY for all citizens and the crime rate has fallen by 89 percent since guns were introduced into the picture.  Perhaps the new police chief is afraid that he will have to start laying off all those extra cops that won't be needed anymore...]

RECRUITING RESIDENTS

The state Legislature approved Missouri’s “conceal and carry” law in 2003, even after voters rejected a referendum four years earlier allowing individuals to possess a hidden firearm.

Troupe, a former state representative, says he supported concealed weapons legislation while in Jefferson City, and supports it now.

He declined to say whether he carries a gun. He is encouraging others to do so because, he says, some parts of St. Louis are just too dangerous.

“You stop to help somebody that’s in need of help, and you end up getting shot and killed,” Troupe said, referring to the Nov. 5 slaying of St. Louis firefighter Leonard Riggins, shot during a carjacking by a someone he thought was a motorist in need of assistance.

Though the shooting was north of the city line, the teenage gunman also had been questioned in a murder in Troupe’s ward.

Troupe is hoping to recruit residents from his 1st Ward and around the area to take a firearms safety course, a requirement to qualify for a concealed weapons permit. He has even made his pitch at City Hall — and he says several aldermen have expressed interest in obtaining a permit.

For now, he says he has a list of around 40 residents who have indicated they would like to take the weapons safety course. About 30 of them, he said, are women.

“They are being terrorized by this criminal element out here,” Troupe said. “Their No. 1 priority is trying to keep their children alive. Their black, male children. And that’s a Herculean task.”

One north St. Louis woman who already has her concealed weapons permit — and a 9 mm handgun to go with it — is Vivian Jones, who knows Troupe and supports his gun push.

She has been robbed at gunpoint in her daughter’s home in Troupe’s ward. Just recently, she witnessed a gunfire exchange outside her business, a dry cleaners, in the city’s Baden neighborhood, where she lives now.

For her 53rd birthday in June, Jones bought a handgun and began target practicing regularly — and she has the bull’s-eyes to prove it.

“I pray to God that I never have to use this,” Jones said, pointing to her waist holster. “But if I do, I’ll have it.”

DISSENTING OPINIONS

Inside Troupe’s ward, which includes the Penrose and Mark Twain neighborhoods, reaction to his concealed weapons push is mixed.

“It’s not a solution, but it might help,” said Larry Gibson, 46, while waiting in a barbershop on Shreve Avenue. “You can have a gun and still get robbed, still get killed. At least you have a fighting chance.”

But Gary Brooks, 64, who was shopping at a produce store down the street, suggested that Troupe is “out of touch with society right now.”

“People are scared, they are nervous, they are angry,” Brooks said. Bringing guns into the equation, he said, “isn’t going to do anything but add fuel to the fire.”

[Mr. Brooks has been watching way too much CNN...  Perhaps he is the one who is "out of touch with society right now."]

The view is shared by Police Chief Dan Isom, who took office in October. Though Isom says he “can understand Alderman Troupe’s frustration,” citizens arming themselves is “not something I necessarily support.”

There could be, Isom says, unanticipated consequences, such as arguments that escalate into shootings because of the presence of guns.

“I don’t really want a society where everyone in the city of St. Louis is carrying a gun,” Isom said. “That, I don’t think, is a recipe for a less violent community.”

[Yeah, you're right - you don't think...]

Fellow Alderman Lyda Krewson is more direct in her criticism. She calls Troupe’s concealed weapons push “wacky” and “counterproductive.”

Krewson, whose then-husband was shot and killed in front of their Central West End home 13 years ago, was one of the state’s leading critics of the 2003 concealed weapons law.

[Not to make light of a tragic situation, but I'm thinking her husband was thinking right before he was shot, "Gee, I wish I had a gun right about now!"]

“The more guns that we have on the streets in the city of St. Louis — or anywhere for that matter — the more guns are going to be stolen, and are going to fall into the wrong hands,” Krewson said.

[They are ALREADY in the wrong hands!  That is why you need to put them into the RIGHT hands!]

GUNS’ IMPACT

Laws allowing residents to carry concealed weapons are the subject of passionate debate. Gun control advocates argue that they put communities at greater risk, while groups such as the National Rifle Association assert that “right to carry” laws have led to lower crime rates.

Last year, local law enforcement officials told the Post-Dispatch that Missouri’s concealed weapons law had no apparent impact on crime.

[Wait for it...]

Even so, Troupe’s bid may represent a certain desperation in parts of the city where crime has proved an intractable foe.

Last month, St. Louis was ranked No. 4 on a list of U.S. cities with the most crime — which is actually an improvement from two years ago, when St. Louis was No. 1.

["No apparent impact on crime," eh?  I would say "an improvement from two years ago" is an "impact on crime."]

Reports of property crimes and violent crimes in St. Louis were down over 10 percent in 2007 from the previous year. Car thefts dropped as well.

Still, this year, the murder rate continues to climb. Through October, the city recorded 148 homicides, more than all of last year. The Mark Twain neighborhood, where Troupe lives, is on pace to match last year’s total of 11.

Jones, the Baden woman who began carrying a gun this summer, said residents need to do something instead of “keep being victims.”

“I don’t promote violence by any means. I’m a very spiritual person, and I believe in the power of prayer,” Jones said. “But times just aren’t like they used to be.”

[To quote an Islamic saying - "Trust in allah, but tie up your camel..."]

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