Women Under Islam
An excellent “must read.”
H/T – MeMaw:
The Plight of Women under Islamism: Time for Muslims to Shed the Denial
Family Security Matters
M. Zuhdi Jasser
There is no more powerful retardant to change and reform among individuals and in a community than human denial.
According to Andrew Benz, Orchard Park Police Chief, on Thursday, February 12, 2009, Muzammil H. Hassan, the founder and CEO of Bridges TV, walked into the police station at 6:20 PM and told officers that his wife was lying dead at the Bridges TV offices. Later, Benz confirmed on WIVB Channel 4 that she was decapitated.
The Veneer of Bridges TV
Mr. Hassan immigrated to the United States from Pakistan in the 1980s. He received an MBA from the University of Rochester in New York and then worked at Procter & Gamble before becoming a banker. In a profile on Hassan and Bridges TV on December 24, 2004 on NPR’s All Things Considered, Jerome Vaughn of Detroit Public Radio reported that,
“Bridges TV says it wants to inform and entertain Muslims and, at the same time, give viewers who aren’t Muslims a glimpse into their culture. Mo Hassan was traveling from Buffalo to Detroit a few weeks after the September 11th terrorist attacks when his wife came up with the idea for the new network. They were in the car listening to the radio when they heard some derogatory remarks about Muslims.”
They claimed that the mission of the network was to, “foster understanding between cultures and diverse populations.” The Chicago Tribune puff-piece on the new network on November 30, 2004 called it “Lifetime for Muslims with a dash of CNN.”
Apparently he financed the network personally leaving his banking job with a $500,000 line of credit and a number of investors. They sought to finance the venture through individual viewer subscriptions of $14.99 in addition to a reported 50 individuals who donated $10 million. Later in 2006, according to the Arab News (the English language propaganda arm of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia), Mr. Hassan visited Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, the global capital of Wahhabi ideology, seeking stock investors in his network.
The face of Bridges TV’s “public marital partnership” in the Hassans clearly had a false veneer which years later would reveal itself. What a difference a few years makes. Mrs. Aasiya Hassan took out an order of protection against her husband and filed for divorce less than a week before her gruesome murder on February 12, 2009. The NY Post reporter only directed attention to the supposition that this beheading was related to Mr. Hassan’s financial troubles. The couples’ attorney did mention that there was a history of domestic violence and a recent divorce filing leading up to her murder. There was no mention of honor killings and Islamist motivations.
The Media’s abject blindness
Now almost five days since the beheading and murder of Aasiya Hassan, the media has been unfathomably silent. Local media covered it like they would any murder. And national media have remained tone deaf and silent. In a media industry where high-profile bizarre murders can quickly become an obsession dominating coverage (i.e. Laci Peterson and Natalee Holloway, to name just two), the avoidance of this story is beyond remarkable. Mark Steyn eloquently points out the abject avoidance behavior and blindness of mainstream media in addressing the layers of issues related to Islamism at the National Review’s Corner:
When poor Mrs Hassan’s husband launched his TV network to counter negative stereotypes of Muslims, he had no difficulty generating column inches, as far afield as The Columbus Dispatch, The Detroit Free Press, The San Jose Mercury News, Variety, NBC News, the Voice of America and the Canadian Press. The Rochester Democrat & Chronicle put the couple on the front page under the headline “Infant TV Network Unveils The Face Of Muslim News”.
But, when Muzzammil Hassan kills his wife and “the face of Muslim news” is unveiled rather more literally, detached from her corpse at his TV studios, it’s all he can do to make the local press – page 26 of Newsday, plus The Buffalo News, and a very oddly angled piece in the usually gung-ho New York Post, “Buffalo Beheading: Money Woe Spurred Slay“.
Do not just take my word for it. Search major media national outlets for any comment at all let alone investigative analyses of this horrific murder. Other than blogs, you will not find much coverage at all. Imagine for just one second, a non-Muslim CEO of a cable network channel (i.e. the Oxygen channel) turning himself in after the beheading of his wife. Add to this the threat of the ideology of radical Islamism and the resources which our government is spending countering that threat since 9/11, and one cannot help but lament the dimming hope of any legitimate reporting being done about the Islamist movement and its threats in the United States.
Islamists’ abject denials
Islamists and their sympathizers are, for the most part, also staying away from this story with fear of the lessons that lie within. But we are sure to witness a litany of variations upon the theme of denial as this story gets the attention it needs in the coming months. Khalid Qazi, a vocal Islamist, a local advocate for Bridges TV and head of the Western New York Chapter of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, apparently spoke to the couple according to reports just last week. His comments scream denial. He said,
“…the killings went against the teachings of Islam and damaged the image of Muslims that Hassan worked to promote. Domestic violence is despicable, and Islam condones it in no way whatever. Murders are being committed in the US every day by people of all faiths”
The key elements in denial here are the likely deep links of Islamism (political Islam), interpretations of Sharia and other mysoginistic religio-cultural values unaddressed by organizations like Qazi’s. Another sampling of the types of denial sure to come from America’s leading Islamists is this typical post from an Islamist at the “average Muslim blog” of this nameless former MSA leader at Stony Brook University, web developer, proud Salafist, and New York native. He stated,
“This is why we can’t really label people as “extremist” because it’s such relative term (sic). From the TV shows that I’ve seen on Bridges TV, I can say that they are very open minded and liberal in some sense. So what made this guy do such a horrible crime? Many people will look at this and say “this guy is an extremist Muslim”, but the reality is. (sic) This guy is just a criminal who is Muslim by faith, that’s all. The act had nothing to do with his religion, unfortunately many non-Muslims will bring this up and blame it on Islam and many Muslims will brush it off with “he’s an extremist Muslim”. (sic) Both are wrong. Let’s be real and treat it as it is. He’s a murderer who happens to be Muslim” said also “for those who don’t think he’s guilty, he’s guilty from before sine his wife filed for a restraining order to do the physical abuse she endured. According to Islam and Allah’s words, this is forbidden. We don’t need to wait for man-made law to declare him a crminal. And Allah knows best”
Looking more closely at the ideology of Bridges TV and its supporters
Whether the mainstream media ignores these cases and Islamists and their sympathizers choose to dismiss it away or not, the general public will rightly continue to grow increasingly concerned about the connections of Islamism to these episodes of rage. If Muslims cannot crawl out of their denial and begin to address these obvious connections in a scientific way, the frequency of these cases – both high profile and otherwise – will only increase and we will have shirked our deep responsibility to our nation and to God.
Mr. Hassan was often referred to publicly as a “moderate Muslim leader.” Now more than ever, if there is one lesson to learn from the death of Mrs. Hassan, it is that a Muslim’s “moderation” is not defined by a condemnation of violence and terrorism but rather by their stance against political Islam and their stance against the statist legal goals of political Islam.
Islamists like the supporters of Bridges TV will try to dismiss this horrific murder as a cultural act of barbarism, but this man was well assimilated into the American culture and his wife was also rather well culturally assimilated. But far deeper in this story than the domestic violence that plagues all societies is the male domination and dehumanization of women, which the method and rage of this murder demonstrates. This animal likely felt religiously empowered by a religious, political, and cultural ideology (Islamism) which placed him in his own mind in a position of power over his wife. This concept endemic to Islamism will always contribute to acts of domestic violence. Thus, while all cultures are plagued with some form of domestic violence, the far higher incidence in the “Muslim world” speaks to a dire need for theological reform.
Bridges TV was endorsed and utilized by most American Islamist organizations and this case should again put up a warning flag of the dangers endemic to political Islam. Bridges TV was endorsed by ISNA (Islamic Society of North America), CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations), MPAC (Muslim Public Affairs Council), and MAS (Muslim American Society) to name a few of the prominent American Muslim organizations which endorsed it.
These organizations have remained malignantly silent on the issue of the equality of women, their support of Islamism, and barriers against women’s rights in their interpretation of sharia. For example, Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi, former president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), has said in April 2004 in a fatwa (religious opinion or ruling) for the popular Islamist site, Islamonline.net of the Muslim Brotherhood out of Qatar that,
“It is important that a wife recognizes the authority of her husband in the house. He is the head of the household, and she is supposed to listen to him…a husband may use some light disciplinary action in order to correct the moral infraction of his wife, but this is only applicable in extreme cases and it should be resorted to if one is sure it would improve the situation. However, if there is a fear that it might worsen the relationship or may wreak havoc on him or the family, then he should avoid it completely. in some cases a husband may use some light disciplinary action in order to correct the moral infraction of his wife…”
Note that the current President of ISNA is Professor Ingrid Mattson. She provided a prayer at the interfaith service for the new Obama administration at the National Cathedral in January. Now into her second term of her presidency of ISNA, she has yet to publicly repudiate any of the misogynistic pronouncements and interpretations of her predecessors. Without an outspoken frontal defense of women against the misogynistic interpretations of Islam by Islamists, individuals like Mattson remain complicit veneer for an anti-woman medieval ideology. In fact, this is an ideal moment in time for Mattson to speak against mistreatment of women and repudiate any sanction of so-called “light disciplinary action” which her ISNA colleagues have obviously endorsed.
CAIR was not only on board as an advocate for Bridgest TV, but Mr. Hassan touted Nihad Awad as an advisor to Bridges TV. Hassan was also recognized at the annual dinner of CAIR-PA. CAIR-Chicago and other CAIR chapters around the country lobbied to have Bridges TV added to regular cable programming. Add to this MPAC-NY’s defense of Bridges TV throughout its existence and its recent apologetics, and we can begin to get a flavor of how pervasive the type of ideology peddled by Bridges TV was among Islamist organizations.
We should not ignore the additional fact that recently the FBI officially finally severed ties with CAIR citing among other things its open support of HAMAS and many of the revelations which arose during the Holy Land Foundation trial which, ended in guilty convictions of many HLF leaders. This was certainly long overdue and a welcome evolution after the FBI hosted a townhall meeting on Bridges TV in 2006.
Many of us trying to sound the alarm against political Islam and its insidious threat to Western secular democracy have been dismissed as “alarmist.” Check out Bridges TV’s YouTube channel (as long as it remains up) to get a firsthand sense of the type of programming and ideology it espoused. They focused on the same old trope as the rest of the Islamist organizations in the United States – victimization, blaming western foreign policy, and conspiracy theories. This is not to mention their typical apologetics and avoidance of any criticism of Muslim majority countries and their governments. Do not waste too much time looking for any exposés on the genocide in Sudan, the oppression of women by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, or the oppression of dissidents by the Egyptian, Syrian, or Pakistani dictatorships, to name just a few of the issues that a truly moderate and progressive American Muslim network would cover.
Steve Stalinsky of MEMRI reported in the now defunct NY Sun about the many concerns of the ideology of Bridges TV. He reported that some guests were extremists. Stalinsky wrote,
One religious figure who appeared October 3, 2006 said Muslims have a duty to change America and to increase their numbers to 50% of the population from 2%. He recommended that Shariah, or Islamic law, be implemented in American courts…Bridges TV’s website www.bridgestv.com features a weekly poll. Notable questions and results include 59% calling for Hezbollah to continue as a military force in Lebanon, 73% in agreement with the American policy of withholding funds to the Hamas-led Palestinian Arab government, and 63% believing that the Iranian government’s nuclear program is for peaceful purposes…Bridges TV claims that its “major purpose” is “to build bridges between American Muslims and other Americans.” After viewing the channel, I find this highly unlikely.”
How many more warnings do we need about the perils of political Islam?
News agencies worth their salt will begin to look at the facts of this case and give it the attention that other high-profile murders in the United States warrant. Certainly Muzzammil Hassan will be innocent until proven guilty. But that does not change the responsibility of the media to address the facts. The facts here are that this media executive turned himself in to police and directed them to the location of his wife’s body back at his office. We are missing many facts. But the facts thus far reveal a woman who feared for her safety from her husband, filed for divorce, and then was found decapitated.
This should at least begin a national discussion on how remarkably parallel the tracks of the ideologies of Jihadism and the ideologies of male domination and dehumanization of women are. Most importantly, we need to address how both come out of political Islam. American Islamist organizations should account for their stances on the place of women in society and whether they recognize the inherent equality of women which has characterized one of the core values of modernity in the west. A review of many controversial laws passed in the name of Sharia in the “Muslim world” reveals a treatment of women which is only a “stone’s throw away” from the so-called moderate veneer of the Islamism of Muzzammil Hassan’s Bridges TV.
So many of the human rights abuses in nations dominated by Muslims are atrocities committed by men against women. Laws excusing honor killings, rape, and domestic violence continue to remain part of the legal systems of many Muslim nations driven by governmental interpretation of sharia. Even in Germany, a judge ruled that a Muslim German man’s abuse of his wife was permitted since it was a protected religious belief. That verdict was vacated a few weeks later, but highlights the abominable cognitive dissonance which many non-Muslims employ when dealing with this issue. The evidence is overwhelming that political Islam and Salafism – are theological constructs ossified in medieval mindsets and in need of deep reform.
That reform and modernization will not happen without daily and pressured attack against the ideas. Something that Bridges TV certainly did not do.
Comments by Islamists or their supporters are sure to continue to give short shrift to the plight of Muslim women. No surprise. The real victims here are Mrs. Hassan and Muslim women all over the world. Their plight is the plight of all those who are victimized by the supremacist mentality of political Islam and the recommended domination of women by their male run communities. I cannot understand why the mainstream media do not see value in publicizing their plight.
The lack of freedom and equality for women in societies and communities run by Islamists exemplifies how Islamists, no matter how they try to camouflage it, will always try to dominate various groups of individuals. It may hide itself from the public eye for years but it exists. Whether guilty or innocent of this grisly crime, clearly this “nice man,” as some Muslims have called him, was a oppressive and violent at home. His wife had resorted to an order of protection against him one week earlier. Domestic violence is not a monopoly of the Muslim community, but the West has gone a long way towards giving women victims of such Neanderthals legal mechanisms of protection, equality, and rights. The Muslim clerics who teach and enable these Islamists have done no such thing and in Hassan’s motherland of Pakistan, women are killed every day without a government or a humanitarian legal code to protect them.
An Islamist who spontaneously turns into a monster is not a new phenomenon. Similarly, in describing “Sudden Jihad Syndrome” and the murderous rampage through the University of North Carolina by Mohammed Taheri-Azar, Daniel Pipes wrote that Mr. Taheri-azar represented, “a seemingly well-adjusted Muslim whose religion inspires him, out of the blue, to murder non-Muslims…It has the awful but legitimate consequence of casting suspicion on all Muslims. Who knows whence the next jihadi? How can one be confident a law-abiding Muslim will not suddenly erupt in a homicidal rage? Yes, of course, their numbers are very small, but they are disproportionately much higher than among non-Muslims.”
So with Mr. Hassan we see a variation on this theme – a “Sudden Honor killer Syndrome” if you will. The monstrous, murderous violence which led to Mrs. Hassan’s murder may have been “sudden” for those who knew the couple. But Mr. Hassan’s misogyny and his apologetics for the ideas of Islamism, and Salafism were most likely not sudden at all. It is time for all Muslims to shed the deep seeded denial and avoidance behavior which shifts the focus away from long overdue theological reform – the only treatment for this disease. A culture and theology which lives along the pre-modern slippery slope of Islamism can easily lead men like Mr. Hassan toward the brink while providing many warning signs. It is time that American Islamist organizations like ISNA, CAIR, and MPAC recognize the problem openly, giving it more than just the lip service which a few poorly attended seminars on domestic violence at their national conventions may do.
But then again, to do so would ask them to deconstruct the very legal system of political Islam which is the ideological infrastructure of their existence. This case should highlight the critical need among Muslims for an anti-Islamist narrative. Surely the first group to run and liberate themselves from Islamists will be Muslim women around the world seeking real freedom and human rights.
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor M. Zuhdi Jasser is the founder and Chairman of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy based in Phoenix Arizona. He is a former U.S. Navy Lieutenant Commander, a physician in private practice, and a community activist. He can be reached at Zuhdi@aifdemocracy.org.
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19 February, 2009 at 10:26 am
As long as muslims hold onto dated and flawed concepts… The more of thier own will get killed for the sake of ‘honor’ or other silly reasons.
Islam must change or die…
19 February, 2009 at 10:35 am
It is not blindness that the media suffers from it is fear. Fear of becoming like this guys wife if they say the wrong thing the wrong way. The problem is anything can set one of them off and the media know this the only way to get around it is to say absolutely nothing. That’s right ladies the media cares nothing about you ending up like this poor unfortunate woman they will toss you under the bus or knife, sword, axe, chainsaw, in a NY minute. The only thing they really care about is that it doesn’t happen to them. Haven’t you noticed that the media doesn’t even dare venture out of their studio bunkers anymore? I’m just surprised they aren’t doing the nightly distort from under their desks.
19 February, 2009 at 12:40 pm
“Islam must change or die…”
I vote for the latter.
19 February, 2009 at 4:20 pm
MSM coverage of this has indeed been disappointing.
Murders happen all the time, domestic violence is nothing new, but decapitation in the US certainly is.
I saw Glenn Beck interview Dr Jasser on this subject.
How do we clone people like this? We don’t have enough of them.
Slightly OT
Beck has also had a lot of stuff about Mexico lately. One of his guests (forget who: am overloaded on news), says there are people coming through tunnels into the US who are from the Middle East.
There have been several beheadings also.
Am I ‘joining dots’ that shouldn’t be joined?
20 February, 2009 at 12:53 am
Unfortunately the innane acts of deadly violence reminds me of the chimp who just wiped the face off that woman. Deceptively cute, the in an instant, deadly.
15 March, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Tri-Faith Initiative, a partnership of Temple Israel, The Episcopal Diocese of Nebraska and The American Institute of Islamic Studies and Culture, is inviting you to attend Dinner in Abraham’s Tent: Conversations on Peace.
The idea of interfaith trialogue is commendable, except, in this case there is one enormous problem. Muslim side is represented by none other than the infamous Ingrid Mattson, the president of ISNA. The same ISNA that was a co-creator of Muslim Brotherhood Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America, which, among other things, reads: “Establishment of Islam in North America, meaning: establishing an effective and a stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims’ causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims’ efforts, presents Islam as civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic state [caliphate] wherever it is. … Understanding the role of the Muslim Brother in North America: The Process of settlement is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process” with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brothers] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
Muslims Against Sharia and many other moderate Muslims raised this issue in the past, but our words are falling on deaf ears. Make no mistake about it: conferences like “Dinner in Abraham’s Tent” are legitimizing Islamofascism and advance Muslim Brotherhood Strategic Goal described in the aforementioned Memorandum.
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/03/legitimizing-islamofascism-dinner-in.html
15 March, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Interfaith doesnt work…
We non muslims arent going to agree with you on islamic theology and doctrines…
Try removing the mujaheedens aka jihadists who threats to your fellow muslims and the rest of us non muslims.
15 March, 2009 at 8:45 pm
reformislam,
Thanks for the heads-up.
Cheers
15 March, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Reformislam and Doc:
I know this is an old thread, but (great minds?) I was tossing up whether to send this interfaith piece on to you and Ronin.
I thought it was very important that people should know about it.
Somehow I got distracted.I’ll put it down to “Mondayitis” here
I managed to put it up on LGF in the hope that many people would see it.
As Will says below agreeing about theology is probably not going to happen, but in the case of preserving Western democracy I strongly believe we have to transcend theological differences.
If this problem isn’t overcome first there won’t be any “theology” to worry about,IMHO.
In fact, Glenn Beck made this point most strongly on his “We Surround Them” special. I totally agree with him on that.
16 March, 2009 at 1:14 am
Of course Beck would talk like that, because he likes talking about “god” and faith without sang that he means the gods that his cult believe all us believing men will get to be when we are given our own planets.
“Muslims Against Sharia” is just another anti-Christian variation of al-Dawah (proselytization) and Jihad.
They are Jihadists because they want more Muslim immigration.
“Agreeing about theology is probably not going to happen”?
Right. Of course not. Christins are not going to agree with Satanist theology. So then they should just forget about their differences and all just get along?
Of course the lizards at LGF will love this because they are equally anti-Christian.
As are Episcopalians, with their bishops who say that Christ is a disgusting myth, or who say that when their rectums is penetrated by another man’s penis — that that is a sacrament on the order of Jesus being penetrated by nails on the Cross. What could possibly be learned from such blasphemers besides how the Devil operates?
Of all these God haters, though, Islam is probably the ultimate blasphemy, which is why from the beginning it has been known as the heresy of heresies and the Unforgivable Sin
The Parákletos (Paraclete/Comforter) that Jesus Christ, God the Son, referred to in John 14:16; 15:26; 16:5-8, 12-14 is the Holy Spirit.
Muslims claim that The Pedophile Mohammad is the Holy Spirit.
Jesus Christ:
“Truly I say unto you, All their sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter: but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin.”
“He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters. Through this I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven these men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”
16 March, 2009 at 5:36 am
““Muslims Against Sharia” is just another anti-Christian variation of al-Dawah (proselytization) and Jihad.
They are Jihadists because they want more Muslim immigration.”
Good to see you have read up on their goals and what they want to achieve.
So are you a mind reader or a liar?
You are quite wrong on that score.You can’t tell the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist.
You seem to have some strange obsession with all things of a religious nature as far as I can tell.
You talk about Christ yet you show no tolerance whatever for anyone who doesn’t think the way you do.
In your world everyone is nicely pigeon-holed.
Nice.
You’re missing out on the bigger picture and that’s the tragedy of it.
You have “how to win friends and influence people” down to a fine art.
16 March, 2009 at 7:26 am
Who says I’m trying to win friends? That’s what Satan tried to do in the desert, but Jesus was quit intolerant.
There’s no such thing as an “Islamist”. If there is, what is it?
How can I be missing “The Bigger Picture”? I’m a Christian. I won’t tolerate anti-Christ. I won’t have anything to do with Muslims, whether they’re the sincere and devout real ones or the Christ-hating Bible-hating phony ones like “Muslims Against Sharia”.
Of course MAS are in favour of Muslim immigration and are performing al-Dawah, that’s why they’re trying to argue that Islam is tolerant and peaceful and can just fit in well with non-Muslim society. Those are all lies too, designed to fool people like you who are already so confused.
MAS are morons and a distraction. They want to “remove” these verses from the Koran:
http://www.reformislam.org/verses.php
It doesn’t even make sense. Remove on what basis? ANd then what is the remainder “the untampered word of God! (minus bits we don’t like)”. It’s just so ridiculous it’s not even funny.
I’m not sure what this connection is here: “You talk about Christ yet you show no tolerance whatever for anyone who doesn’t think the way you do.”
How are those two “things” supposed to go together? Are you confused and somehow believe that Christ is tolerant?
16 March, 2009 at 8:06 am
Prominent members of and bloggers at Muslim Against Sharia are Pam Gellar of Atlas Shrugs (who has demanded that Islam be banned) and Ted Belman of Israpundit. Hardly anybody’s ideas of a Muslim.
Personally, after reading much of what is propagated by MAS, I believe that their Dear Leader, “Khalim Massoud” is an liberal ethnic Jew raised as a Christian who probably once converted to Islam just to annoy his parents. Somebody like John Walker Lindt.
ANyway, whoever he is, there are many “Muslims” in the world who oppose Sharia, from Ataturk to Namazie. In other words they are Non-Muslims. What exactly is “Muslim” about “Khalim Massoud”? He says the Koran is crap, he hates the Bible. Not much of a Muslim.
Like most vocal (Non) Muslims against Sharia, his idea of western civilization is buggery, abortion, porn, getting stoned and queer pride, and Islam gets in the way of al that “fun”.
He’s a “former” liberal, i.e. a Neoconservative (which he even has admitted).
Neoconservatives are basically communists who decided to infiltrate the conservative movement allied with disaffected Democrats who favour FDR over LBJ (which is many of them are now copacetic with “the new FDR”) happy with to “drag conservatism into the modern age” as they write. They are “”ex” Trotskite Jews like Irving Kristol, ex” Stalinist Muslims like Stephen Schwartz at NRO and Front Page, “ex” Stalinist Jews like Podhoretz, unashamed Trotskyite atheists like Hitchens, “ex” Trotskite Jews like Horowitz, and a bizarre mix of Useful Idiot “Christians”.
What could possibly hold all these people togethr but their hatred of all things fixed, such as, for example, the Truth of Christ. The Only Way. The Only Path. They’re not keen on such thinking.
Disaffection with communism leads to two main paths. The post-mod having realized that Marx was wrong, declares: “there is no truth”. And the Neocon decides that capitalism can be used to achieve heaven on earth, as Trostkyite Irv Kristol wrte in “Two Cheers for Capitalism”: “bourgeois capitalism works, in a quite simple, material sense”. In other words they drive a faith in capitalism as their main creed just as Marx derived Communism from Feuerbach and Hegel “stripping them of their mystical shells” (as Lenin expressed it.)
Neoconservatives want to promote anemic Christianity and Islam as part of the basis of a New World Order, as the vehicle for infiltrating the hearts and minds of the unwashed unconverted, stripping them of their “mystical shell” in the process. The goal is the same as Che Guvarra’s, the gaol that alienated him from the Soviets. Che: “highest aspiration of mankind is to be a cog in the wheel of the production of consumer goods.” This is the core of Neocon theology.
The goal is world domination and the cultivation of the hive, bent on material production, inspired by a godless world cult.
It’s called Satanism.
16 March, 2009 at 8:08 am
Saint Luke:
Then Jesus, being filled with the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, being tempted for forty days by the devil (“diablos” meaning “slanderer”). And in those days He ate nothing, and afterward, when they had ended, He was hungry.
And the devil said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, command this stone to become bread.”
But Jesus answered him, saying, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.’”
Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”
And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”
Then he brought Him to Jerusalem, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here. For it is written: ‘He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’”
And Jesus answered and said to him, “It has been said, ‘You shall not tempt the LORD your God.’”
Now when the devil had ended every temptation, he departed from Him until an opportune time.
[I guess now is a very opportune time]
16 March, 2009 at 9:29 am
So, are you a Muslim?
Do you believe in the immaculate conception, as related in the Koran?
Are you in favor of or opposed to Muslim immigration?
If you hate the Koran and Islam so much, why do you still claim to be a Muslim?
If you’re really from Afghanistan, then why is your site in English, French, German, Dutch, Swedish Italian Russian, and Hebrew?
How dumb do you think people are?
16 March, 2009 at 11:49 am
“If you’re really from Afghanistan”
What makes you think I am from Afghanistan, you retard?
“How dumb do you think people are?”
People are pretty smart, but it is rather presumptuous for a dumbass like you to aspire to be called one of the people.
16 March, 2009 at 1:33 pm
You wrote in on your blogger profile before scrubbing it, because you are a liar like your father you.
16 March, 2009 at 2:37 pm
If you weren’t such a retarded piece of crap, you’d know that “Afghanistan” used to be a default setting on Blogger at some point. When the account was created, not all setting were changed. But regardless, of that, what kind of a degenerate would first accuse me of being a Muslim (because, as we know all Muslims are bad) and then accuse me of lying of being a Muslims? Not too friendly with logic, are we?
16 March, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Typical response of a liar. Avoid the typicak obscinities they use to avoid serious questions.
So, are you a Muslim?
Do you believe in the immaculate conception, as related in the Koran?
Are you in favor of or opposed to Muslim immigration?
If you hate the Koran and Islam so much, why do you still claim to be a Muslim?
Why is your site in English, French, German, Dutch, Swedish Italian Russian, and Hebrew, but not in not even in one of the many languages spoken by most real muslims in the world? Turkish, Urdu, Pashtun, Arabic, Uzbek, Bahasa Indonesia, etc. ?
16 March, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Why do you limit your criticisms to the Mooslim participant? After all the participant Schorsi is a big proponent of buggery as a sacrament in which she supported “Bishop” Robinson when he was accused of such blasphemy. SHe is also responsible for many other acts of queerism and blasphemy. Should this also call into question her desire to align her Church with God-haters who are bent on the destruction of the Church after she excommunicated sincere Christians?m
16 March, 2009 at 3:55 pm
What a sad eye-full of reading, Akira!
I have very devout Christian family and friends and you don’t even come close to their beliefs and standards.
They would squirm in revulsion at what you have written and rightly so.
You are an ignorant and arrogant bigot who seems so full of hate for everyone it is pitiful – nothing more, nothing less.
Topic closed as far as I am concerned.
16 March, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Typical response of a liar. Note the typical obscinities they use to avoid serious questions. Fist of all s/he/they pretend(s) to be bewildered as to why anyone would thing that he’s afghan, but then he comes up with the pathetic excuse that that used to the default setting at blogger.
So, are you a Muslim?
Do you believe in the immaculate conception, as related in the Koran?
Are you in favor of or opposed to Muslim immigration?
What does it mean to be a Muslim?
Do you believe that Moham was inspired by the angel to be the last prophet?
What school of Islam do you follow?
You say jihad is old fashioned and misubderstood. Was it always? When did it become so?
You say that Muslims should be forbidden from using terms like “non-Muslim” “kaffir” “infidel” because they are insulting. So what on earth are they supposed to use?
What is it about me that would make your allegedly Christian relatives “cringe?”
If you hate the Koran and Islam so much, why do you still claim to be a Muslim? In what way am I a “retard” “full of crap” and “a retarded piece of crap”? Do you have some specific examples of how I am allegedly a bad hsirian, or how I have mistakenly represented you?
What kind of Muslims are your the principal team-members at your blog, the Jew Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs who demanded that Islam be banned, or Ted Belman of the Jewish Defence league? What branch of Islam do they belong to?
Is it just that you consider “Muslim” to mean any liberal oror Gd-hater or Jew willing to support you or get suckered by your con?
Any confusion about who you are and what your motives are is entirely due to the insane nature and content of your site.
Why is your site in English, French, German, Dutch, Swedish Italian Russian, and Hebrew, but not in not even in one of the many languages spoken by most real muslims in the world? Turkish, Urdu, Pashtun, Arabic, Uzbek, Bahasa Indonesia, etc. ?
16 March, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Tech note: the threading doesn’t seem to be working so well. Now I see responses coming before the comments being responded too. It looks as insane as Muslim “logic”;
16 March, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Akira,
I’ll look into it. I reduced the number of nested replies to 4 earlier today since the page space gets smaller and smaller the more nested replies there are. That might have something to do with it.
Cheers
16 March, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Okay, I’ve set the depth of the nested replies to 5 deep. That seems to do the trick.
Cheers
16 March, 2009 at 11:09 pm
For some reason this comment show up. Perhaps some thread-related bugs?
I see what’s up now. Gramfan is a Muslim, and one of the Muslims Against Sharia team members along with Pamela Geller (Atlas Shrugs) and Ted Belman (Jewish Defence Leage, Israpundit.)
Salaam aleikum my Muslim brothers and sisters.
Will you be making the hajj this year?
17 March, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Still no answer, I see, as to why the “Muslims Against Sharia” are primarily Atheist Zionist Neoconservative Jews.
Jokers playing with fire?
Why are they trying to get people to accept Muslim immigrants?
17 March, 2009 at 1:24 pm
“Atheist Zionist Neoconservative Jews”
Atheist Jews? Ain’t you a f***ing retard?
17 March, 2009 at 11:57 pm
No, I’m not retarded.
How come most of “Muslims Against Sharia” are atheirst Zionist neoconservative Jews? It’s a simple question.
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Some quotes from “Muslims Against Sharia”:
Eitan – continuedinchicago.blogspot:
“My journey started in Russia in 1981, continued in Chicago in 1989, then in Israel in 2001. Having lived in Israel for 6 years, full of hope that one day I will return to the land of my forefathers and defiance for the enemies who surround Israel. … Born in the USSR and having immigrated to the U.S. in 1989, I found out I was Jewish at the age of 7 in Italy. Since then, I’ve striven to immitate my heroes: the likes of Hanna Aharonson, Ze’ev Zhabotinsky, Yair Stern, Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and others. I spent the past 6 years living in Israel where I blogged under this name @ “Hear, O Israel.” Now,I set out on a new journey.”
“Today’s Goal: Piss on Messianic Jews: I’ll deal with Messianic “Jews” and certain X-ians parading as Jews. I figure we’ve been fooled enough. Time to fight back!”
“Looking for that Special Someone (and She’s Gotta be Kosher): Warning to all Hebrew maidens: I’m coming for you! I ain’t gonna be stopped no how/Not now/I’m finally getting it all together.”
“Sarah Palin has no experience as far as foreign politics go, a long-running friendship with the likes of Pat Robertson and other Evangelical “soul-snatchers”, as well as an afinity for Jews-for-Jesus (the bunch of militant hypocrites who would like nothing better than a Jew-free world).”
“Open Letter To Evangelical Christians and Jews-For-Jesus:
“I will fight Messianic Jews and those Christians who will try to convert me to the last.
“I am not an observant Jew, yet I attended a Jewish school, have studied bits and pieces of Jewish law, and love my people more than you can possibly imagine.”
“I believe it is the Devil who wills you to try and convert me and my people and that you are his tools. When the day of Judgement comes, G-d will have no mercy on you. But before that time comes, I will have no mercy on you. …
“I have no patience for you. … I don’t want to have anything to do with you and I don’t want to hear from you. Your words will fall upon deaf ears and your prolestethizing will be scorned. …
“It’s funny: our worst enemies may appear as our best friends. It’s funny how Christian Zionists think they support the Jewish people and at the same time try to do the Jewish people harm. More than funny, it’s sad. More and more Jews are marrying Christians. More and more Jews are converting or worse, becomming Messianic “Jews.”
“I write all this in light of recent attacks within the Jewish world and the Jewish blogosphere on Muslims: a religion a lot closer at heart to Judaism than Christianity.”
“Islam: An Enigma: While Christianity began getting noticed at around the 3rd century B.C.E., Islam was established in the 7th century; that 14 centuries into its existence, Christianity was a plague; that the Talmud, written by Jewish scholars in the Middle Ages, openly denounces that faith, condemning Jesus to have been a heretic, a man who had used the name of G-d and artifacts from the Holy of Holies to perform vain miracles in the name of creating a name for himself. In fact, I as a Jew, am forbidden to enter a church—not a mosque.”
“The Evil That is Russia:
“Jews took center stage in ousting the tsar and his regime. … The Russian people, much like the Nazis, tried extinguishing the age-old spark of Torah and mitzot from the Jewish people. They murdered thousands of us, imprisoned many thousands more but the worst part of it is they took away our religion: our connection to our past. Jews, as usual were a big played a large role in the creation of Soviet Russia. Both Engels and Marx had been “emancipated”, atheist Jews. … My father instilled the values of Revisionist Zionism, and Jewish pride in me. He taught me to love my people and to hate its enemies. … Russia is an evil country, its leaders are the epitome of evil, and its people are evil as well.”
““St. Peter” was one of the first C-ians, a virulent anti-Semite and a man of neither integrity nor honesty.”
“Israelis: support your local anti-Missionary movement. Let’s get the Promised Land rid of the imposters once and for all! Amen sela!”
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Dave Gaubatz:
“All Muslims, including the “moderate” ones, believe that Islam has been at war with infidels since the beginning days of Islam and the Koran. War is a continuous process that includes information gathering, planning for attack, patience and abiding the right moment, and finally the operational phase of direct attacks. Often the stages overlap, but the war will not end until there is a worldwide Islamic State (caliphate) and the Muslim world perceives no threat to their culture or Islam.”
“It is our goal at SANE to begin the process that will awaken the average American, the Christian American, that we are at war. This is not the war of the Jews in Israel against Islam. If it were so easy, I as a Christian would be the first to say so. But it is not. This war has little to do with Israel. Islam and the Muslims remember well the Crusades and the Crusaders. For them, that war has never ended. And, you will recall, the war did not begin with the Crusader-Christians. It began with the Muslim invasion north into Christian lands. It will only end when we have destroyed all vestiges of Shari’a in the world.
“About Me: 20 years USAF, former Federal Agent (1811), 1st U.S. Federal Agent in Iraq (2003). SANE’s Director of Intelligence & Counter-terrorism (CT) Studies, Director of the Mapping Shari’a in America project
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kisarita – kisarita.blogspot.com:
“kisarita – About Me – Former Black Hat Chick [i.e. Orthodox Jew], who now straddles the margins of many cultures, most, but certainly not all of them jewish.”
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No Compromise: goto7.blogspot.com:
“About Me: I STAND WITH ISRAEL AND THEIR RIGHT TO EXIST! Psalm 122:6–Pray for the shalom of Yerushalayim. They will prosper who love you. Genesis 12:3–I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you. In you will all of the families of the eretz be blessed.” This is the true Religion of Peace! Baruch Ha Shem”
17 March, 2009 at 11:58 pm
“Muslims” Against Sharia: Just another front group for Anti-Christ
http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/muslims-against-sharia-just-another-front-group-for-anti-christ/