I am still burning my koran
Actually, I already did, within a minute of hearing that Pastor Jones caved; I exercised my rights and trashed my antique koran. No pomp and no circumstance no ceremony just a cutting torch and a trashcan lid. I have had that book since the 80’s. Then I turned my cutting torch on again and trashed an antique islamic dagger. To be technical it was a Jambiya and a gift from an imam. It was an amazing piece of work, mostly silver with some gold inlay.
That dagger would have bought me a used truck but I was angry, insensitive and pissed off. Not at muslims, they rarely surprise or anger me. I am mad that censorship, intimidation and a general lack of common sense combined and whipped freedoms ass.
I heard all the lies; burn a book and you risk attack and incite violence. There was never a bigger and bolder lie. Americans have been attacked by islamic minions from the beginning. I have watched enough American bodies go down Bayshore Blvd to realize that radical muslims have been murdering our soldiers before anyone every heard of Pastor Jones.
This weekend radical muslims will attack Christians, not in Gainesville Florida but in Iraq, the Philippines, Sudan and other places. This weekend muslims will attack Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. This weekend muslims will attack other muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places. Worse than the attacks will be the deafening silence from the press. Don’t you dare think that anyone of the murderous thugs have ever entered a mosque or read a book. Nope that was not it; they must have been motivated by something else. I bet it was free speech.
I did not cause any violence by burning a book. I did not burn the book or trash the knife because I was angry or insensitive with muslims or islam. I did it because once America stood for freedom, once Americans could make a stand on principles. Once we were free. Once we refused to back down in fear.
My koran and dagger or now gone. Actually the koran is gone, the remnants of the knife are cooling out back. Blame me for every bad deed that muslims do for the next thousand years. I am an insensitive bastard. Hell, I probably had something to do with mohammed switching from preaching about his new religion to becoming a warlord and starting his campaign of murder and violence. .
I had invited friends over Saturday and we were going to burn the koran, drink some bear and eat pulled pork to celebrate the end of ramadan. Not now, Saturday I am going to burn a copy of the US bill of rights, it is worthless now anyway.
If like me, you are a dinosaur, and one of the last patriots. If you remember when Americans had rights. I encourage you to practice your rights. If you cannot get to borders; you can download a koran from:
http://www.islamway.com/index.php?iw_s=library&iw_a=top&lang=2
Burn it, not in anger but because it is your right to do so, because our way is better and because we do not let the behavior of a middle eastern cult dictate what we do. We refuse to be intimidated or censored. Not by the threat of attack by blood crazed savages and not by a government hell bent on destroying our country.
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9 September, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Drat ya beat me to the announcment…
Florida minister cancels burning of Qurans on 9 11
By ANTONIO GONZALEZ, Associated Press Writer
32 mins ago
09-09-2010
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/quran_burning
dhimmi preacha …
Am still gonna burn my ‘quran’ Sept 11 too! To hell with the islamic system!
9 September, 2010 at 5:50 pm
we foolishly in the western world sold our expertees,
our technolegy,our armaments,to the second and third world countries what for? for profit!who is profiting
now? pretty short term gain huh!must have been dreamt up by one of our brilliant bankers or perhaps one of their political budies or both.
well i wonder what would happen if we took away their
toys,their cars ,boats, planes,buildings,racecources,
hospital,computers,petrochemical plants,nuclear facilities,tv,radio,radar,sonar,asdic,the internetspace tech,i suppose they would still have their sheep
,goats,camels an old leather tent and the horizon and
that old myth abouut alah being good to them and that
ancient promise that the grass is greener just over the hill with the thought of 14 or is it 17 virgins
in that paradise.of course with a limited dictionary
alah would have to had dug very deep to try to delete the word gullable and vunerable or perhaps they did not exist in his world where innovation in dreams
were transposed into religious dogma .one would think
in hindsight it would have been prudent to leave them
in the desert with their sheep and goats,they only
want to the very gun you just sold them on you.
9 September, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Thank you for standing up to islam. I was a muslim now I am a Jew. Mohammed was a pedophile and I am an idiot for not reading the site rules before insulting Mr. Ronin. He is my Idol, forgive me Sir.
9 September, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Stop your crap for one second and realize allah is a fairytale. All your efforts to defend a simple story will more likely than not piss off another muslim to the point he will harm you to please the same false god. You muslims murder 12 muslims for every infidel you harm. Do the math dumbass; your own are dangerous, not a blog. Grow the hell up and become productive. Learn to do, build and grow. Want too impress me? Get your worthless ass into school and learn to help humanity.
If and when; I piss off a real God, it will decide my fate, not you, not any other pedophile worshiping fool. Grow up and Get an F-ing life.
When will you pedophile worshiping morons learn? I have heard it all and not a single one of you has anything to say but the same old BS. Any ideology that cannot stand up to scrutiny is not worthy of worship and any deity that needs the likes of you to defend him is one sorry excuse for a god.
9 September, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Hey Ronin guess what man. I am christian. Roman Catholic to be precise. I in no way see the worship of Allah as contradictory with my beliefs seing as he is the same God. Get my worthless ass in to school. I will be graduating from a private school in Atlanta, Georgia in May and will then study at Yale on full scholarship the following year. Would you like to recant your statements? Where did you go to college? Do you see no problems in Christian Theology? What denomination are you? why did the Christian church split? If you truly believe that “any ideology thatt cannot stand up to scrutiny is not worthy of worshiping”, why did you delete my comment? are you scared that it contained truth?
look forward to hearing from you. hope you will have the courage to respong rather than alter my comment.
10 September, 2010 at 3:22 am
If you really think your God and allah are the same deity then you are also blind to the fact that this blog has nothing to do with religion. My education has nothing to do with the fight against the cult of islam but I will tell you that yours does not impress me. If you want to discuss religion and forget the obvious fact that they are not all equal and not all worthy of respect; then talk to Doc or any of the many Christians that post here. They are fantastic people and much more tolerant than I am, maybe I should look into what they believe but I digress. I am not here to discuss the merits of Christian Theology. OTOH I can easily defend them from the many muslims that stop by here playing the apple vs oranges and simple distraction games.
To me religion is a simple subject, once the Christians develop a global criminal network that both raises money for violence and also sends its young men to be cannon fodder, I will start to warn the world of their impending arrival. Until then, I stick to discussions on evil violent cults like islam.
Your post fell right in line with thousands of muslims that have stopped by here over the years, if you are not a muslim good for you. If you are a Christian then you need to learn to read and understand what islam is and what it is not. Any Christian will tell you that they follow a living, loving God, not one that demands blood and rewards its protectors with sexual deviancy and then will reward them for violence. Again, take your religious discussions to a blog more suited for that discussion or direct them to our readership. I limit my discussions on the subject to showing why islam is unique, dangerous and completely misunderstood by westerners.
If you wish to post here, you are welcome to do so. Read and follow our rules. Our filters are severe, that is necessary. If a post gets lost, wait until Doc or I get time to clear it. Sending us a quick email speeds the process up.
Cheers
10 September, 2010 at 8:49 am
Jason,
Please explain to me how allah is the same Deity as God.
Specifically, how do you, a Christian, justify your conclusion when the Qur’an specifically states: 1) Jesus was NOT the Son of God but a mere prophet; 2) denies the Triune nature of God; and, 3) denies that Jesus died on the cross for your sins?
Let me help you out with the relevant text from the Qur’an:
Items no. 1 & 2:
“O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.” – Qur’an 4:171
Item no. 3:
“(They are condemned) for disbelieving and uttering about Mary a gross lie. And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him – they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him. “ – Qur’an 4:156-157
So, while you are cogitating on all that, let me give you one more thing to think about:
“Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist–he denies the Father and the Son.” – 1 John 2:22
Cheers
10 September, 2010 at 10:38 am
I’d like to know why the sunni shia split or why the amadiya are persecuted by other muslims? I’m wondering why their god needs them to go forth and murder as Christ does not call for that. Weakness?
A full scholarship at Yale, what a surprize, alla ackbar!
10 September, 2010 at 11:53 am
Allah, Hubal, Sin are all the names of a moon god worshiped by the pagan Arabs,and Persians in the near east.
Nimrod, Nimrod’s wife and mother, and Nimrod’s son Tammuz, are the false Trinity given to the world by Lucifer.
Tammuz, the moon god, and rebirth of Nimrod is non other than Sin, Hubal, or Allah. Take your pick.
It is not me that writes this, but Archeology at the Doctorate level. You can read it for yourself.
Are you still worshiping Mary the Queen of Heaven? Christ never said to pray to Mary, and she is not co-Regent with Christ in Heaven.
That is paganism, plus the Pope is not Christ on earth. The Universal Church calls itself Christian, but misleads millions away from G-d the Father with the lies of Lucifer.
10 September, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Ronin and Doctorbulldog,
Thank you for a more civil way of responding to my post. I’ll admit, my first one was wrought with too much emotion for a useful discussion.
Ronin,
I am afraid that you are not viewing Islam in the correct light. Sure, Mohammed himself engaged in violence (very different from the prophet Jesus), but he himself said that violence was the lesser of the two jihads. The stronger is the inner struggle-the struggle to be a good person. I am sure I am not the first to have said this to you, but I believe you are not differentiating between radical Muslims and the vast majority of Muslims today. I would ask, what did you know about Islam prior to 9/11. My guess, next to nothing. The violent acts of Islamic extremism is where to focus is. I have met many devout Muslims who oppose all violence. On the opposite spectrum, I have met Christians who are more than willing to fight any way. You say that religion is a simple subject. My simple response to that is…you are wrong. I say that will all due respect though. That is my belief. Just as I believe violent Christians are not truly Christians, I believe that violent Muslims are not true Muslims. You comment on Islam without knowing the true nature of the religion. Ninety nine percent of the Muslims that I know do not believe in “17 virgins” or any of the other misconceptions. To repeat this limited idea of Islam is not to focus on the dogmatic aspects that make it a PEACEFUL religion.
Doctorbulldog,
Have you ever heard of Universalism? I guess I would say i lean more towards a universalist theology. True, there are aspects of Islam that make it incompatible with christianity, but who cares? My view is that as long as you do “good” what does it matter what you believe. I do not believe in God as a figure who can be put in a box. I believe there are many paths to the same “God”. And I do not believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. That would suggest that God was some bloodthirsty being who required sacrafice to love us. Rather, I believe that Jesus LIVED to save us from our sins. And of course he had to die, that was the natural consequence of the message that he was preaching.
And a message on you quotes. By quoting and taking out of context you disrupt the Holy nature of these books. You focus on the negative aspects of Islam while focusing on the positive aspects of Christianity. May I ask, do you believe every word in the Bible to be divinely inspired and true?
Look forward to hearing from you guys.
Tgusa, Allah ackbar
9 September, 2010 at 7:48 pm
By all means burn your Korans, but call the local TV station first, maybe you’ll make world news and trump Terry Jones with a personal visit by Pres. O and Colin Powell. The publicity will be worth a million at least
Keep up on all the world news on Islam pro and con including the Florida Koran burners free with my Islam Watch Blog at http://tinyurl.com/islamwatch
9 September, 2010 at 7:59 pm
My koran is already toast, I didn’t need the drama of the press. It was mine and I used it the way I saw fit. Unlike the people you mentioned, I could careless, which muslim gets pissed off. I have never met a happy one, or a moderate one.
Did you notice Pastor Jones books sold out and used copies are almost $60? When you are smart enough to get the Pres, SECDEF, the worlds media and a General to give you free publicity you can make bank.
Cheers.
10 September, 2010 at 1:43 pm
“I have never met a happy one, or a moderate one. ”
Or even a moderately happy one, I suppose.
9 September, 2010 at 8:09 pm
I am going to burn my Koran on Saturday unless someone puts $1,000,000 usd in my account #892-0039-3386-456 in Bank of America by noon Saturday.Lucy
9 September, 2010 at 9:18 pm
why are you erasing all comments opposing your view and replacing them with muslim to jew converting bullshit? and who the hell would call you sir? someone afraid that theyre getting proved wrong as bigot?
10 September, 2010 at 3:23 am
Are your eyes dry yet? Read and follow our rules, grow up or shut up.
10 September, 2010 at 12:15 am
Actually mike we commentors here are ‘bigots’, intolerant and so forth. Not that you or allah should care. After all it was islam that taught us its ways.
Try to post an honest comment like:
“Islam is a system that destroyed all non muslims in countries that were origionally pagan.”
or
“allah is the pagan godmuhammads grandpa worshipped before muhammads birth”
Something that we can agree with.
10 September, 2010 at 4:48 am
Generally I’m against burning books but there a couple of points that negate that general principle
1. Not burning the koran will be seen as indication that Western nations have caved, are cowards and will not defend even their own religion and culture, but will bow down to the koran.
2. Most Muslims will see that even though we may be occupying a couple of Muslim countries, on the political front, we have surrendered, and admitted that Islam is more ‘powerful’ an ideology then anything we have in the West.
From this they will naturally assume, and they are right, that politically and ideologically, they have conquered the West. The physical conquest is then only a matter of time.
10 September, 2010 at 4:59 am
Burning it is not near vile enough
10 September, 2010 at 8:22 am
An imam gave you a dagger? That sure speaks volumes about that bunch when a “holy” man presents a weapon as a gift, one that may have killed a few “infidels” in its time.
In some Islamic cultures, the Dagger is a sign of manhood. In my evil -follow US policy blindly days, I saved muslims. The reward was a dagger, a symbol of manhood. I should have destroyed it years ago.
10 September, 2010 at 11:09 am
The global authorities are playing right into the hands of islamists. Burn a koran and there will be more terror! It is as if they are third grade kids reacting (cowering) to a bully.
So next week it will be what?
10 September, 2010 at 11:53 am
Well jason your promuslim comments arent suprising because you dont know didly squat between catholic or islamic theology and doctrines.
Both are theocratic systems that have failed or are failing. Good luck…
10 September, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I suppose that the violence that commences on Saturday, local time in the M.E. will still be blamed on that pastor, as they haven’t been watching the news, having to get all their gas cans filled up and sharpen their machetes, etc.
11 September, 2010 at 6:18 am
Jason,
Just for a baseline. The first muslims that I met were mujahden fighting against Soviets. Since then, I have lived in, fought in and visited many islamic nations. Although I am now retired’ I have a small job and I interact with members of the islamic community in Tampa at least weekly. I am sure my identity would shock them but my point is I have met, interacted and befriended muslims for most of my life.
Being a believer in peace and non-violence does not a moderate make. I have yet to meet any muslims that would admit that mohammeds character was less than perfect or that he would act any differently if he were alive today.
My issue with islam is the ideology, which I believe is evil. It is oppressive to many, women, infidels and others. It and encourages a since of commonality and stifles personal growth. Over a billion people would have benefited if it had never been invented.
The islamic countries I have seen have proved to me that what the world believes about islam is wrong. All the failed states, the hunger and the blatant racism at the core of islam speaks for itself. Sunni, dislike, Shia, Alwadi, Suffi, and the list continues, put them in any order and you see it transcends sect, the Arab muslims consider themselves superior to African muslims, again the same pattern in any order applies. In short, the myth of muslim brotherhood is just that. Strikingly, I did not see this pattern with other religions.
I am familiar with the limited defenses of islam that muslims put forth to defend their faith. All are easily shown to be false and put simply, there is no legitimate way to defend an ideology started by anything less than a man of high moral character. Mohammed was just a piss poor choice for a role model.
Please do not think my low opinion of islam transfers over to all muslims. I am very familiar with the closest Christians hiding among the masses. The go to mosque, partake in ceremonies and do not believe one sentence of mohammeds lies. They are the reason that I erase posts that wish violence and mass punishment on the islamic world. I realize that you have to treat people based on their own merit or lack there of.
I also have an issue with islams history. You do not to dive deeply to see a pattern. Islam demands blood but not just for its enemies. Muslims have paid a very high price for worshiping lies. Many so-called moderates pay the zakat knowing full well that a portion goes to support jihad. There are so many two faced muslims that it is often impossible to take any at their word.
To sum this up. I am very familiar with both muslims and islam. Although, I could use koranic verses and the like to show why islam has proven to be a failure and should be resisted at all costs. I choose to use a more direct method and challenge the system and individual muslims on actions and not words.
4 October, 2010 at 3:11 pm
how can Britain ,USA AND THE COALITION Forces not beat
a bunch of Ragheads in open War conditions????????????
I ask you why?
The british 8th Army almost alone beat Rommels army
in Elalamien in the most arduous conditions easily
comparable to those in Afganistan .They did this with
no Apache helicopter or jet figther bomber support that can be called up in minutes,far superior technological support and also without the facilities
of high tech weaponary.
Why ? possibly the politicians tie one arm behind their backs,one would not ask a bricklayer to build a house and then before he started tear up the the plans ,give him a few pieces,take his trowel and spirit level away from him,then ask him to build it on sand foundations!in escense that is what they are asking!!! Or parties with an interest in continuing the war are ??????????? Koranburner91177
Tom