Question for You: Why Did Obama Order Osama Killed, Not Captured? UPDATED


U.S. team’s mission was to kill bin Laden, not capture

(Reuters) – The U.S. special forces team that hunted down Osama bin Laden was under orders to kill the al Qaeda mastermind, not capture him, a U.S. national security official told Reuters.

“This was a kill operation,” the official said, making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan.

After the giddiness wore off over the news of Osama’s demise, I have been asking myself some serious questions about all of this.  The quick burial at sea was quite a letdown for the American people as it didn’t allow for them to see the body on display for the press.   This is REALLY going to bite Obama in the butt later on.  After all, you still have a bunch of tin-foil hatters out there who saw planes fly into the Twin Towers and yet are convinced that the government blew up those same buildings using high explosives.  So, why the quick burial at sea?  Sure, you don’t want to bury him on American soil, or any other soil for that matter, as this will no doubt become a martyr’s shrine for his supporters.  However, why so fast?  What was the hurry? He’s dead.  He’s not going anywhere and al-Qaeda doesn’t have the time and resources to hunt down and engage a fully armed military vessel in the middle of the ocean.  Obama should have personally flown out there with GW Bush and done one of those “Mission Accomplished” photo-op thingies.  THEN he could have buried Osama at sea with all the proper Muslim and political platitudes on display for an eager press to eat up and dish out to the world and a hungry America.

This would have added an extra boost to Obama’s approval rating and given Americans a more satisfying conclusion than what we got—which was just Obama doing his usual schtick of self-aggrandizing while reading the teleprompter, “I did this, I did that, I ordered this, I ordered that, me, me, me, I, I, I…”  Hey, Obama!  You didn’t do anything exceptional enough to warrant such an ostentatious speech as what you gave last night!  You merely did the job you were hired to do and that was that.  Get over yourself!

Which leads me to my next, big question:  Why did Obama order Osama killed, not captured?

Did we not want to garner any actionable intelligence from al-Qaeda’s number one?  What if OBL was planning a major attack which could kill thousands in the United States and everything and everyone were already in place?  Wouldn’t it make more sense to keep the option open of waterboarding Osama rather than closing that avenue off by ordering him killed, not captured?  Doesn’t Obama want to save American lives?  What better way than to capture and interrogate one of the most high-level terrorists out there, Osama bin laden?

Unlike what the Lefturds and Libtards would have you believe, it is quite obvious that torture actually works in obtaining important, high-level information.  In fact, the killing of Osama is directly attributable to Bush’s use of waterboarding at Gitmo!   Hidden amongst the background noise this morning concerning Osama’s killing is this interesting tidbit:

[...] Details of how U.S. intelligence agencies tracked bin Laden and of how the assault took place are found in a White House transcript of a briefing held early this morning [...]

According to the account, detainees at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, first provided the alias for bin Laden’s most trusted courier, a man whom intelligence agents would hunt relentlessly.

Four years ago, intelligence agencies uncovered the man’s identity. It would be two more years before agents could identify the regions of Pakistan where the courier and his brother were known to operate.

[...]

“Still we were unable to pinpoint exactly where they lived, due to extensive operational security on their part,” the official said. “The fact that they were being so careful reinforced our belief that we were on the right track.”

It wasn’t until August of last year that intelligence officials found the brothers’ residence in Abbottabad, a medium-size city home to Pakistan’s most prestigious military academy.

“When we saw the compound where the brothers lived, we were shocked by what we saw — an extraordinarily unique compound,” an administration official said.

Twelve- to 18-foot walls topped by barbed wire surrounded the three-story villa, roughly eight times as large as surrounding homes. Additional walls segmented the interior, providing more security and privacy.

[...]

“Our best assessment, based on a large body of reporting from multiple sources, was that bin Laden was living there with several family members, including his youngest wife,” an official said.

[...]

So, it is quite obvious that waterboarding works!  Surely this lesson has not been lost on Obama.  He is directly reaping the rewards that came not from his brand of kumbayah-isms when dealing with terrorists, but from the cold-hard reality of the necessity to torture some of our enemies should the need arise.  Obviously, when it comes to torture, GW Bush has been vindicated and Obama has been proven dead wrong in his vehement opposition to the use of torture!  Yet, here we have Obama taking all the credit for the foundations that were clearly laid down by Bush.  Think about this for awhile; if Obama finds torture to be morally reprehensible, then why did he chuck his “morals” out the window and use the information gleaned from torture to kill Osama?  It would be like me driving my daughter down to Planned Barrenhood even though I morally and logically oppose abortion.  Sheer hypocrisy! 

Remember when Obama defined what he believed sin to be?  He said that sin was, “being out of alignment with my values.”  Seems to me that Obama has just sinned against himself.   But, I digressed…

Clearly, this is not a victory for Obama’s “morals” as much as it is a vindication of Bush’s policies.

Speaking of Bush, remember when Bush would say, “dead or alive” whenever talking about getting OBL?  Where was that “alive” part in your plan, Mr. Obama?  That makes you a murderer, Obama.  You know, that label you pin on our American troops who shoot first and ask questions later, thereby ignoring your stupid kumbayah rules of engagement in Afghanistan?  Problem is, our American troops are actually in harm’s way when they make the decision to buck your silly rules of engagement and take out the threat.  On the other hand, you, Mr. Obama, were not in harm’s way at all, yet you ordered the killing of Osama WITHOUT tempering it by also ordering that Osama be captured alive if possible.

Not that I am upset over the killing of Osama Bin Laden—he got what he deserved—but like I said, failing to issue a tempered “dead or alive” order makes you a cold-blooded murderer, Mr. Obama.

UPDATE:  “Islams Not For Me” informed us that Osama Bin Laden was killed while hiding behind a woman who was also killed in the operation.  Where are all those kumbayah rules of engagement, Mr. Obama?  Why are you tying the hands of our troops in Afghanistan with all this kumbayah crap and, yet, when it comes to your own little military operation, you don’t need to play by the rules that you established?  Do you know who else didn’t play by the rules he had established for everyone else to religiously follow?  Muhammad, that’s who!

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50 Comments on “Question for You: Why Did Obama Order Osama Killed, Not Captured? UPDATED”

  1. Gonzo Says:

    I can think of a couple reasons for the tactics used, (been contemplating this all day).

    If you capture him there would undoubtedly be massive numbers of attacks and kidnappings as preludes for his release. Now, if his comrades want him, they can feel free to take a swim.

    Second, the 24 hour burial right shows much more class than the savages who desecrate a persons remains and then drag them through the streets, (not like any self respecting Muslim would ever do such a thing, noooooo).

    Finally, the weight of the shock of his quick death may play more on other terrorist minds, which may be seen as a greater end run than trying to extract info from him.

    All assuming it was actually him of course.


    • Yes, all valid points.

      Understand, however, that I’m looking at this from a point of view based upon Obama’s personal values and his idealist ideology.

      That is to say, Obama believes himself “civilized,” “cultured,” “holier-than-thou,” etc., etc. He has made his living railing against the “barbaric” practices of the “evil” United States of America.

      He has even tied the hands of our military and caused untold deaths with all of his kumbayah rules of engagement. All because he fatuously pushes the ridiculous belief that wars are to be civilized affairs. Well, buddy, war is hell!

      I’m just holding Obama’s feet to the flames and pointing out the hypocrisy inherent in his thoughts and actions.

      Time for Obama to admit his cognitive dissonance, face reality, and get rid of those damned, kumbayah policies in Afghanistan which are costing American lives!

      But, I seriously doubt he will do that. He’s too much of a damned ideologue and has been living in la-la land for far too long.

      Cheers

      • Gonzo Says:

        Yeah, questionable “holier than thou” ideology seems to follow with liberals for seem reason. I’ve come to the realization that liberal ideology is the polar opposite of rational thought. It is what has lead to the run away political correctness flatulence that currently sickens our society. (For example, idealists want to celebrate diversity by making sure that everyone feels exactly the same…doesnt quite figure, does it?).

        One last thought on this, then I’m done wasting synopsis energy on the devil OBL – how do know his body, (if any), was actually tossed overboard?

        Best case scenario: Catch OBL, claim he was killed, claim to dump the remains in a method one could never prove otherwise, then extract whatever info you can from him. :)

        • waterboard him Says:

          i agree. thinking about this all day and best case scenario is capture him alive and keep it secret in order to obain actionable intelligence. With a military operation in a pakistani city it is no longer possible to keep it secet so you run a disinformation campain by claiming he was killed to buy time to interogate him and act on the info obtained. Also by claiming he is dead no one can question or complain about the interigation methods used on him.

  2. Leatheneck Says:

    So, who got the 50 million for rating him out, and why was he not fed to pigs to honor Muhammad, and the moon god?

  3. tgusa Says:

    Why did Obama order Osama killed?

    I thought the left believed that Bush did it! I thought the left believed that we were murderers. I thought the left thought exactly the opposite of what they are saying today. I hate the left even more today than I did yesterday.

  4. tgusa Says:

    Osama and the US left have made our country and the world into a place where nobody enjoys life. Yes, I hate them all.

  5. Lisa Says:

    OMG. I am not even an American and I am ashamed of the way you speak of your President! For heavens sake, yes you all have freedom of speech but can you use it a more respectable way? I watch a lot of Television and from watching People such as Glen Beck and the other Republicans, it is obvious how much rage and anger yuou are filled with

    • tgusa Says:

      OMG. I can’t believe HOW STUIPID YOU ARE! Buttout!

    • tgusa Says:

      Just what does free speech have to do with it Liz? Do you claim that we are children and must obey our president dad?

    • True Patriot Says:

      @Lisa Respect has to be earned, it is not automatic.

      Obama is an illegal communist muslim usurper sent to destroy America. He is not eligible to be Pres, & the Communist left in our country have allowed this fraud to stay perched in our White House like a buzzard. Obama has entirely disrespected the laws of our land, our U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      He lied and said he was a Christian & the day after being sworn in illegally pledged his alliances to muslim thugs.

      There is not one ounce of respect in this fraud’s body .

      Respect is not automatic Lisa. Being civil and respectful is appropriate of many world leaders, it is not called for when you have the Obama thugs of the world. Obama is in the same class as Chavez & Ahdinamajhd the criminals dictators. He wishes to illegally tear down and dismantle America.

      So Lisa do your homework before you speak please.

      Our country is being destroyed and he is not my Pres. He is a fraud.

      The biggest fraud and scam in the history of the world.

      • Independant Says:

        I see a lot of statements of facts. Can you please provide proof that Obama is not American born and therefore not eligible to run for president?

        Can you show me proof he is a Muslim?

        If you can prove he is a Muslim, can you prove to me that all Muslims are what you say Obama is?

        I think the Dems and the GOP are both parties who are in the pockets of big business and proof of this is in the fact that big business gave over $20M to McCain, Obama and H. Clinton during the ’08 campaign.

        Here is one blog post with some examples of how the candidates are all being bought out:

        http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/15/financial-services-firms-and-campaign-donations/

        Please produce links to back up your statements or your credibility is zero.


    • “OMG. I am not even an American…”

      Then what are you doing in California? Like I’m buying what you’re selling, you silly libtard.

      “I am ashamed of the way you speak of your President!”

      He’s NOT my President. He was born with dual citizenship. Contrary to what Progressive-Commies would have you to believe, the Constitutional IS the foundational law of the land. All laws must adhere to the limitations and requirements it places on them. Besides age and residency requirements for the office of President, the Constitution also requires that he be Natural Born. Since the legal definition of Natural Born has been perverted over the last couple of centuries and now you can find a myriad of equally valid definitions which manage to contradict each other, one needs to determine what the intent was when the founders put the Natural Born Clause into the U.S. Constitution. Interestingly enough, no other office other than the office of the President requires Natural Born status. Why is this?

      Well, founding father Charles Pinckney (an original signer of the U.S. Constitution) explained it quite succinctly:

      “…and to insure experience and attachment to the country, they have determined that no man who is not a natural born citizen, or citizen at the adoption of the Constitution, of fourteen years residence, and thirty-five years of age, shall be eligible.”

      Furthermore, in St. George Tucker’s Treatise on the Constitution (1803), St. George Tucker wrote:

      “That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, wherever it is capable of being exerted, is to be dreaded more than the plague….”

      You see, long story short, because Obama was born with Dual Citizenship, Obama lost any claim he might have had to “Natural-Born” the day he stepped off that plane in Kenya in 2006 and started actively campaigning for Odinga, thus demonstrating his split-allegiance to the U.S. Not only that, but he willfully violated the Logan Act.

      Ergo, I do not recognize him as a legitimate President. And, spare me your predictable chants of racism. If you ever saw me, you would understand how foolish that would be.

      Furthermore, if you think I’m hard on Obama, then you obviously have never heard me ragging on GW Bush!

      Look, the American government was not founded on any other system but republicanism; As Lincoln would say in his Gettysburg Address, It’s a nation “of the People, by the People, for the People.” We ELECT our leaders, they don’t elect themselves. Our ELECTED leaders WORK for US. WE pay their salaries! WE tell them what WE expect from them. Because of this it is incumbent upon We the People to constructively criticize them when they fail to meet our expectations. Barring that, WE the People have the power to remove our elected leaders.

      It’s not all about freedom of speech, as you fatuously believe, it’s about staying true to Our Founding Fathers’ vision for America and doing what is right for Our Country. If you can’t comprehend that, then you are truly lost.

      Furthermore, as I seem to recall George Washington previously elucidating in his farewell address, the very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government. To the best of my ability, I obey the established government. However, you can be damn sure I’m going to let the established government know when it has moved away from the founding Republic and stepped into the realm of Tyranny. That is Our power and that is Our right.

      “I watch a lot of Television and from watching People such as Glen Beck and the other Republicans…”

      Sounds to me like YOU watch way too much television! I don’t have cable. Therefore, considering that I only get broadcast TV out here, your attempt at subtly insinuating that I’ve watched way too much FOX News falls pretty flat. Also, I’m NOT a Republican nor a Democrat; I’m an Independent because I don’t believe in parties. I believe that there should exist NO parties. That way, the voters will actually be forced to find out all they can about who they are voting for before they vote; not just merely checking the name next to the appropriate R or D letter. Next hypothesis?

      “it is obvious how much rage and anger yuou are filled with”

      Unlike Obama, I’m actually filled with love for God and my Country. Obama is only filled with love for himself. Believe it or not, I love Obama like a brother; But, he’s like a narcissistic brother who has a serious drug problem and is busily destroying everything and everyone around him. Just think of my criticisms as “tough love.”

      Cheers

      • tgusa Says:

        Shes in Ca, so she prolly isn’t an American, LOL. Been kicked out of her own country you know.
        Nice job on the recent news Doc.
        Cheers


        • Thanks for the props, tgusa.

          BTW – Thank you for all the comments you have provided over the years. I read them all and enjoy them immensely. I know that I fail miserably in replying to everyone, however, I’m blessed in that most of the time, our valued readers’ comments have said it all and need no further elucidations from myself. Keep up the good work!

          Cheers

      • tgusa Says:

        Most of us don’t even watch Foxnews, ROFL.

    • Scase Says:

      What??? The mainstream media swoons over their hero Obama and just a few years ago smeared President Bush on nearly every channel. Don’t post your “respect the president” nonsense, because I guarantee you didn’t so much care when liberals were making a fool of George Bush.

  6. LIz Says:

    I believe a few things could explain this. Either he’s not dead and they are hiding him to get info, they disposed of him, from what i was told, in a proper Muslim burial at sea (not sure the facts on that, and third, more probable, is to keep away all the people that you know would come out of the wood work. People trying to steal the body, or claiming to have been the one to kill him. I think it’s a concienient time for this to have happened, one year before elections. After trying to stop this mission in Afganistan/Pakistan 2 years ago, he is now claiming victory? Kinda too good of timing for me. The CIA was in charge of this mission for over 6 months and I doubt the White House had 100% of their intel.

  7. True Patriot Says:

    I have made my analysis known of what I think. Osama died some time back from deadly kidney disease. He is buried in some cave, or deservedly under a herd of goats, & Al Queda has allowed to world to believe he is still alive. The last pics taken of him were in that white outfit of rags walking in the mountainous region outside of Pakistan.

    They (Al Queda) would the world to think their messiah was still alive because he is the GodFather of mass murder of innocent people. I believe he died & was quietly buried by some of his followers, & no more has been said about it.

    Since kidney dialysis is not offered in the caves of these savage madmen, & Bin Laden could not seek medical help, he could not possibly have lasted until now. There is no way.

    Notice how this subject of his failing kidneys as far back as 2005-05 has been brushed under the rug by all corrupt lying media? Notice how quick the media jumped all over this story to rush and praise the fraud and Jihadist? Notice how there are no pics? And when there are I am sure they will be photoshopped just like the 3rd grade quality forged BC last week?

    As for DNA proof, Bin Laden was captured in the Sudan in ’93 & old lying Bill Clinton let him go.
    During his capture the DNA would have been obtained.

    DNA hair and nails last forever in forensics testing.

    Connect the dots Patriots. Do not let this rogue lying thugs force this propaganda on America.

    The burial at sea was the clincher. Notice how quick the media showed the bloody dead corpses of Saddam Hussein’s 2 sons killed in a strike outside of Bagdad years ago. Remember how quick all the other terrorists who have been killed bloody corpses were shown in the media right at the time of the breaking news. Why this is the prize goose and they did not show it. Guess their photoshop machine is torn up and burned up from forging the 2nd BC on the fraud.

    • Tony Says:

      Right on! Only brainwashed gullible nitwits believe the Barrack Hussien propoganda that the Seals could actually invade a guarded (if not why not) compound without firing a shot until they asked ” —who is Obama–”. “Ok, here is his shot!”. Where was the radar detection of the choppers? Where were the guards? Can one believe that someone as wanted as ole ben could have been so totally unguarded? Can anyone believe that a plastic surgeon could not have made one of ole bens relatives look exactly like ole ben? Can anyone not believe that Pakastan ,for fifty million or more, would not have cooperated with Obama to stage the whole made for movie attack? The same liberal democrats and bleeding heart libs who crucified Bush for waterboarding, now praise the Obamanites for “murdering” ole ben (imposter, but still a human).

  8. True Patriot Says:

    Sorry for the typos. Up with sick grandchild. I am too old for this. :-(


    • Yup, I feel for ya’. I’ve got an almost 4-year-old daughter who requires constant attention on my part to keep her from destroying the house, killing her new pet hamster, cracking her head open, etc. Sometimes, with all those demands for my attention, it takes me all day just to compose a simple paragraph or two, and yet, still I find typos! It doesn’t help that my other keyboard gave up the ghost a little while ago and I’m using an old backup keyboard that likes to skip letters if I don’t press down hard enough. Luckily, if I’m commenting or posting on this website, I can go back later on and fix my mistakes. On other websites, well… Like I said, I feel for ya’.

      Cheers


  9. When we try to get to Hitler, he robed us of the benefit. This time we robbed ourselves point blank. Capturing Osama alive allows for closure and justice be seen to be done. This ranks as the biggest question mark since JFK.

    • AntonS Says:

      Agree with you. It now appears that the CIA-Obama did not want Osama to talk and reveal who his friends were and who/how those in the US/worldwide may have aided him, even possibly unwittingly. Looks like a cover up to me, to cover over embarrassing intelligence failures to prevent a relatively uneducated man, accomplishing quite a complex and damaging mission against the US, whose intelligence protection measures dismal failure relegated them to the point of redundancy.

    • Gonzo Says:

      When you say “when *we* tried to get Hitler” I assume you were talking about the West, as Arab nations were actually allies to Hitler. In fact, there were entire Arab battalions swearing allegiance to Hitler and the process of Jewish genocide. It seems that Mein Kampf had been translated to Arabic and used as a recruiting tool. It would also seem that hating Jews was an easy and natural tendency to those who served in Arab army units devoted to Hitler and his causes.

  10. Stanoi Rudiani Says:

    Some of you americans have taken to again being racist and Anti Obama even at a time when you should be giving your President some credit.
    I am not an American, yet I can see when morons in your own country lie face up and spit.
    Please dont loose the sanity. Osama bin Laden was equally bad to any one and was trying to show that he was fihting on behalf of Moslems , how ever in fact he did more harm to Moslems alike , yet putting up a show .
    So You American like the FOx Channel / Republicans in general have to show some sanity . Cheney used Bust to make money with the wars and was not really after Osama. Was using Osama as a Political means to fear the crowd / the world just as it is done in my county in South East Asia

    • tgusa Says:

      Racism, grow up south east asian. I am pretty sure that south east asia is full of only south east asians, racism?

      • tgusa Says:

        East asia is only rivaled as war criminals by the islamofascits of today. You might as well call it policy. Do you really think you have room to talk, that the world has forgotten?


    • Hey, Obama can give himself more than enough credit for actually doing the job he was hired to do by We the People. He doesn’t need any help from me in stroking his *ahem* ego. Besides, there’s an infinite supply of sycophants in the lame stream media who are more than willing to engage in administration fellation. In fact, it’s because of the lame stream media’s unwillingness to critically report on anything to do with Obama that I am forced to pick up the slack and point out the chinks in Obama’s armor.

      I mean, really, you expect me to get down on my knees and kiss his scrawny behind just because he did his job by giving approval to the military to take out Osama Bin Laden? C’mon, get real! That’s like giving someone a freakin’ trophy for showing up on time at work! I don’t play that game. If you’ve got a job to do, then just do it. Don’t strut around like a peacock and pat yourself on the back just because you showed up on time for work. And, for sure, don’t expect me to stroke your ego just because you did what any other person would have done in your shoes. Now, if you actually thought outside the box in a constructive manner and were humble about your successes, THEN I would make it a priority to give you props and more.

      Cheers

      P.S. – YOU ARE A RACIST! Why? Because you immediately assumed that everyone here was not black when you threw out the race card, you stupid moron! Maybe you should have done a little research into my family tree before you started slinging your laughably “racist” crap around here. What? Are you going to pull out the “Uncle Tom” card, too? Sheesh! If you really want to throw around the race card, might I suggest a better forum for you to address and comment on?

      http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

      I think you will be more in your element there than here. Tell ‘em that that mixed bastard, Dr. Bulldog sent ya’.

      • tgusa Says:

        You won’t see many (any?) blacks in south east asia. I hear the south east asians have moved into Africa and are exploiting blacks there. If history is a guide, prolly try to steal their land soon enough.

    • Leatherneck Says:

      I just heard a spoon drop. Did someone name a child over there?

      Now, that was Racist! I hope I don’t go to hell for that one.

  11. tgusa Says:

    Its pretty funny that we have all these monolithic countries and regions accusing us of racism. They must get their news from an abcbnbc affiliate. Come speak with us when you get some diversity. Oh thats right, westerners have come to your region, but over time you have killed or run them off.

  12. islams not for me Says:

    For:

    Lisa
    Stanoi Rudiani

    No one here cares about Obama’s race. Its his politics that have changed and messed up America.

    If you disagree with our views fine. But don’t waste your breathe calling us all “racists” when Obama has been recorded as being socialist and worse in regards to his politics.

  13. islams not for me Says:

    Ok let me consider…

    “So, why the quick burial at sea?”

    So we can feed the sharks… No? Ok how about this… I Agree we dont want his followers to make up a shrine at his grave site. Nor do we want his body stolen by those necrophiliacs in his forces.

    There is a another downside to his body being missing. We cant see what a hollowtipped .223 or 5.56 mm round does to a muzzie coward and murderer.

    “Why did Obama order Osama killed, not captured?”

    PERHAPS if we listen to the Conspiracy nutters that Osama was indeed innocent of the 9-11 attack (NOT LIKELY).

    Osama coulda had damning evidence against Bush & Obama and the power brokers in WA-DC didnt want that recorded.

    Either way the “figure head” of the towel-e-ban is dead. His replacement will meet the same fate as that old “slave of allah”.

    • tgusa Says:

      Well if Bin Ladens body had been kept it may have reflected badly on the rest of the islamofascit world. It prolly would have been ugly, the celebrations of martyrdom, the gratitude and support etc etc.

  14. TJ Says:

    And will the US Navy seal see a dime of the money offered for Osama dead or alive. I doubt it. B… does any of this matter, if Osama was really alive and the us navy seal team really did kill Osama then the hydra just poped up two more heads. Isn’t the white american dude the 1 or 2 of al-qiada now or some shit. Interesting how all these wikileaks articles about how if Osama died nuclear rain would come down on the west only a week before his ‘death’ well we will see how that plays out as well as the tenth anniversary of 9/11 oh yeah and a election year. Big ups Obama another 4 years of ‘change’ yeah! Anyways I love my country and the troops but I’m sick of bs shit from the government cover ups like Pat Tillman’s death and straight false flag ops like the gulf of tonkin. nuff said

    • tgusa Says:

      Yes, all real Americans care about our military. I myself have been supporting them since the war that was rigged in the Gulf of Tonkin. However, I pay taxes, taxes that support the military so I will state my grievances and I don’t care who gets mad. The truth is Bin Laden has been blown way out of proportion, after 9-11 I was angry but never afraid. Bin Laden did not cause me any anxiety in the years after 9-11, his mission was terror but with me that has failed miserably.

      However, what our guvmint has been doing has. I support the troops but right now it is the peoples turn, within America. I am supposed to trust a guvmint that has tried to stick the terrorist label of ordinary Americans voicing their grievances, hardly, maybe if I were a fool but my foolish days ended when I found out about the Gulf of Tonkin. That realization did not turn me against our military but made me even warier of the political class.

      It doesn’t take much to destroy trust but it does take a lot to build trust. I do not like what my country has become and it is all because of Bin Laden and the political class. Our political class has done what Bin Laden could not, cause me great amounts of anxiety and much concern. The military exists for the people not for the guvmint, period. The left is full of crap, the republican pols are not too far behind. We are left out in the cold. I don’t feel safe or protected but then again I never asked to be safe or protected. I am an American and I will not be terrorized by anyone or any group, friend or foe.

      • tgusa Says:

        Besides, I feel zero sympathy for Bin Laden but this is much bigger than just him, hell, he doesn’t even run a country as many of them do. The left wants it to be about Bin Laden which only continues to distract from the real issue, global islamofascism.

  15. charles Says:

    for those americans criticizing your president, i think yall voted him and if some of yall didnt vote for him majority did vote him to power. but hes now american president if hes even not your president so go home and organise a lil election and elect your president… gush.. about
    i would have love you to state your stand when america went to war in iraq.. whatever

    you do pay taxes and this inturns goes to the military operations worldwide, then stop paying your tax and give reasons why you not paying, i believe your country has all the rights than the rest of the world does not have…

    i think obama did not carry out that order on his own but you got some people with him too… i think the situation room pics explained that… so i think for once you concentrate on some people too in the white house and not only obama

    im not in support of obama because i think there are some hidden facts about the raid on osama… why the sudden burial? they claim he used a woman as shield and the soldiers killed the woman and obama? thats sounds funny.. i was in the military and knows a cover sheild show and how to take shield out if necessary to keep the suspect alive..
    why didnt they show for once his body before burying him? all of this amidst shows the world is not in order

    • Gonzo Says:

      ok charles, (knowing that is not your real name), let me see if I have accurately deciphered your rant.

      You appear to say that Obama is our president, in place because of free and honest elections in America; if we dont like that we should hold our own elections in our private homes; that if we dont like the actions of our gvt we should illegally withhold taxes; that others were in the situation room, hence others are to blame; that America is the land of more rights than any other country in the world; that we should have been outspoken about the Iraq war; and that you have background and thus knowledge that what is said to have happened did not.

      OK, Skippy, first, thank you for recognizing that America IS a fair country where we have true elections and real inalienable rights, unlike Theocratic nations brimming with hypocrisy, corruption, oppression, and tyranny.

      But I am confused as to why you would first insinuate that it is inappropriate for Americans to disagree with the current president but that more should have disagreed with the previous president. I can only guess that what you are really saying is that people should act according to your sensibilities and not that of their own. From that, I gather that you must live in a Theocratic country brimming with hypocrisy.

      You also seem to have an issue understanding accountability. Not paying taxes is illegal and would make one a criminal. Also, Obama, the Commander-in-Chief of military operations is the ultimate responsible party if in fact he gave the order to fire upon anyone. The fact that you do not understand accountability leads me believe that you must live in a Theocratic country brimming with oppression.

      Finally after defending Obama, you make the same claims others do, which leads me to believe that that you must live in a Theocratic country brimming with tyranny. AND having made that statement after implying that others cannot and presuming authority over an event you know very little about, leads me to believe that you must live in a Theocratic country brimming with oppression.

      So which Islamic nation are you from?


      • Gonzo,

        Great comment. It’s like you were reading my mind! LOL! The only thing I would add would be that when Obama announced the assassination of Bin Laden, Obama took credit for just about every aspect of it under the sun. So, if we are to believe Obama’s narcissistic self-aggrandizing speech, then Obama IS solely responsible and, therefore, no need to criticize anyone else.

        Cheers

    • Tony Says:

      If you are not an American, clean your own toloit hole before trying to get involved in American rights. You only wish you could enjoy freedoms that Americans enjoy. By the way, what do you consider racist. Are the black voters racists if they voted for Obama?

  16. Danger Man Says:

    Answer: Like nearly all the public flatulence emitted by the Obamunist regime, the statement that they intended to kill Bin Boy is a lie.

    If they wanted to kill him they could have dropped a bunker buster through his bedroom window. They were trying to capture him–but HE WAS ALREADY DEAD!

    Bin Boy’s guards were under strict instruction to take all necessary steps to prevent his capture–including killing him if necessary. By the time the SEALs got into the compound and up the stairs his merry men had already smoked him.

    Hence the lies, e.g., he “apparently” was killed by the SEALs.

    Not only was capture plan fubarred, but now secret stealth copter technology revealed as well, remnants probably already in Chicom hands.

  17. PCinWV Says:

    Short simple answer, he needed killing!

  18. john Says:

    personaly i think what that f*** got was too good for him he should have been tortured but hey im going to get called sick now but thats what i think and not just because someone i new was in the trade centre but because of all the lives he took and as for the search for him i’m not convinced the us government acturly looked for him i mean come on 9 and a half years of searching and he turns out to be in a pakistani town that just so happens to be were us troops are

  19. So much extremism, so little sense. Says:

    You guys are funny. You wish that they would have captured OBL instead of killed him and then faked his death so that nobody finds out. How do you know that’s not what they did? If they did that you’d still complain just by the fact you didn’t know about it.
    Also, you are criticizing the President for a move that you applaud. Hypocrisy is one thing, but the chance to capture America’s most wanted is a tiny bit more important. Although it is in fact hypocritical that Guantanamo Bay is still opened, its still opened right? Would you prefer it to be closed for the sake of preventing hypocrisy? I don’t think so.
    What you guys don’t realize is that the President, whether democrat or republican is never prepared for what actually happens in the office for the simple reason that he isn’t told. America has her secrets that President’s are only made aware of a few days after his inauguration. No president is a god or a supernatural being with foresight. What Obama did was when he was made more aware of the situation, he made decisions based on the new information, information he did not have while running, so of course he may betray his values, every president has, no president is perfect. If you would rather a democracy not exist and that this country be ruled by a single regime where only your favorites can run for president, I would advise you to buy a one way ticket to Sierra Leon where you would fit in perfectly.
    I hope you all have a wonderful day.


  20. Well sme…

    Your comments are a confused mixture.

    1 You don’t think that bin-ladle is dead and yet cannot prove that he is alive to thwart this story.

    2 Where is the proof of any of us being a hypocrite?

    3 The American political system is a mess and given over to multiple groups already. So in that you are right niether party is helping to get WE THE PEOPLE out of the messes we have gotten ourselves into.

    None of us want to change the ideals that America stands for. Democracy, Freedom and so forth. Otherwise yeah we would leave it…


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