Libtard Judge Rules that the National Day of Prayer is Unconstitutional

What a load of BS!  Tell me, where in the Constitution does it forbid prayer?

The closest thing you will find is the 1st Amendment which prohibits the government from establishing a national religion or giving preference to one religion over another.

But, a National Day of Prayer does neither.  What it does is declare a day in which the government recognizes the religious diversity of America and is a show of support for the rights of Americans to pray to the God, or gods of their choice.

If you are a freakin’ godless commie, then go ahead and to pray to your fascist leader, Obama.  Heck, you are even free to pray to Cthuhlu, if you so desire.  I really don’t care.

If you are an Atheist, you are free to opt out.  No one is going to put you in jail for exercising your beliefs, or lack thereof.  Therefore, the National Day of Prayer is very much Constitutional as it in no way violates the intent of the First Amendment.

If that is the case, then Congress, the Senate, and the Supreme Court (“God save the United States and this Honorable Court.” ) violate the 1st Amendment just about every session when they have their opening prayer…
Wisc. court: National Prayer Day unconstitutional
April 15, 2010 – The Washington Times

Ben Conery

A federal court in Wisconsin decided Thursday that the country’s National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional because it calls on citizens to take part in religious activity.

U.S. District Court Judge Barbara B. Crabb ruled that the statute that created the National Day of Prayer violates the Constitution’s prohibition against the government establishment of religion.

Judge Crabb, an appointee of former President Jimmy Carter, wrote in her decision that ‘”some forms of ‘ceremonial deism,’ such as legislative prayer, do not violate the establishment clause.” But she said the National Day of Prayer goes too far.

“It goes beyond mere acknowledgment of religion because its sole purpose is to encourage all citizens to engage in prayer, an inherently religious exercise that serves no secular function in this context,” she said. “In this instance, the government has taken sides on a matter that must be left to individual conscience.”

The lawsuit was originally filed in 2008 by the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation. The group said Thursday afternoon that a statement regarding its legal victory would be forthcoming.

The American Center for Law and Justice, a conservative organization that filed briefs in the case on behalf of 31 members of Congress, called Judge Crabb’s ruling “flawed” and vowed to file an appeal.

“It is unfortunate that this court failed to understand that a day set aside for prayer for the country represents a time-honored tradition that embraces the First Amendment, not violates it,” said Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ. “If the appeals court fails to reverse this decision, we are confident the Supreme Court will hear the case and ultimately determine that such proclamations and observances like the National Day of Prayer not only reflect our nation’s rich history, but are indeed consistent with the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.”

The suit was originally filed against then-President George W. Bush and members of his administration, but President Obama is now listed as the defendant because the president enforces the statute in question by issuing a proclamation each year declaring National Day of Prayer.

First held in 1952, National Day of Prayer is held the first Thursday of every May. This year’s National Day of Prayer is scheduled for May 6.

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31 Comments on “Libtard Judge Rules that the National Day of Prayer is Unconstitutional”

  1. ER Says:

    for consistency then, will we ditch Thanksgiving, our other national day of prayer

  2. Godefroi Says:

    Interesting, isn’t it, that several of our early Presidents issued proclamations of national days of prayer and fasting, and nobody thought it was unconstitutional then…even while Mr. Madison was still breathing. In fact…

    ….Whereas the Congress of the United States, by a joint resolution of the two Houses, have signified a request, that a day may be recommended, to be observed by the People of the United States, with religious solemnity, as a day of pubic Humiliation, and Prayer…I do therefore recommend the third Thursday in August next, as a convenient day to be set apart for the devout purposes of rendering to the Sovereign of the Universe and the Benefactor of mankind, the public homage due to his holy attributes…” — James Madison, 1812

    What a bunch of f’ing idiots.


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  4. Thomas Jefferson and the other Founders presupposed that the intelligence level would be the same in generations to come. Were they ever incorrect. Thomas Jefferson wrote about the separation of church and state, as in the state not allowed to mandate an organized religion, such as the Church of England.

    Twisted minds have bent this to mean that citizens should be separated from their right to worship, especially if the setting is in the public square. Bless their hearts.

  5. islams not for me Says:

    “It goes beyond mere acknowledgment of religion because its sole purpose is to encourage all citizens to engage in prayer, an inherently religious exercise that serves no secular function in this context,” she said. “In this instance, the government has taken sides on a matter that must be left to individual conscience.”

    So who says its a ‘right’ of atheistic secularists for me not to pray. After all if they are going to screw with Christianity then by rights we have the right to say atheism has no business in Government and making baised laws because they dont want public prayer or other religious subjects on display.

    And incidently I believe good ole Tom Jerfferson didn’t want a theocratic republic to replace his ieas. Henceforth the idea of ‘seperation of church and state’ gave way to a buffer between those in the theocratic philosophy and the secularists.

    Too bad we will see an upsurge in atheistic theocracy in the USA and perhaps elsewhere.

  6. islams not for me Says:

    Here is a letter from Mr. Jefferson to the Dansbury Baptist Association in 1801…

    “Letter To Danbury Baptist Association
    Thomas Jefferson (Jan. 1, 1802)”

    “Gentlemen,–The affectionate sentiment of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association, give me the highest satisfaction. My duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature would “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. ”

    “I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect and esteem. ”

    http://classicliberal.tripod.com/jefferson/danbury.html

    Looks like Tom wasn’t so much an atheist after all…

    • changedforever Says:

      Sure wasn’t. He was a Christian and had no problem telling people he was. He gave credit where credit was due for the gift of freedon to the Almighty God and to no one else.
      ____________________________________________________

      Tradition based on the Constitution being spat upon once again by progressives/liberals/socialists/marxists. What a shame that this country is walking away from the God who gave us this land so we would be free from bondage. Our freedoms one by one are being taken from us. There is one thing no ruler can take from us and that is our faith in the Almighty God who is still in control. One day He will, like in the days of old, send his mighty wrath upon all who are taking these rights, etc. away. Until that time and even after we must be vigilent, active in politics, pray,etc. It is up to us,with His help, reclaim this country and put God back where He belongs, first in all things.

    • PB-in-AL Says:

      Another interesting quote from this, “…that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions…” Thus even the consideration of “hate crimes” legislation would be anathema to Jefferson’s view of the government’s role.

  7. Mullah Lodabullah Says:

    I’d forgotten Cthuhlu – I think allah bumped it off. Bring on gaia for a death match with allah. The West is almost up to the same level of barking madness as Somalia / Al Shabab, which has banned school bells because they sound too Christian.

    • islams not for me Says:

      Don’t forget the ‘green man’ and the dual wiccan god / goddess… (Depending on your ‘tradition’)

      🙂

    • PB-in-AL Says:

      Then there’s Richard Dawkins’ “aliens seeding the planet with life”. Oh yeah, also Christopher Hitchens, since he’s a solid atheist, as opposed to Dawkins and his aliens, just throw Chris in there too.

      I’d put odds on the Greenman over Chris.

  8. Bud Says:

    ONCE AGAIN, ANYONE WHO WAS EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH JIMMY CARTER DOESN’T THINK LIKE MOST AMERICANS. MOST ARE WIMPS.

    THE FACT IS, WE ALREADY HAD A RELIGION WHEN THE DECLARATION AND CONSTITUTION WERE WRITTEN AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT STATES THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT PREVENT THE EXERCISE THEREOF. THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT STUCTURE WAS SET UP WITH REFERENCE TO AND SUPPORT OF GOD!!! THESE SO-CALLED CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLARS CAN’T EVEN READ THE AMENDMENTS CORRECTLY BUT HAVE TO “INTERPRET” TO FIT THESE POLITICALLY CORRECT TIMES.

  9. CavMom Says:

    I still hold President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s D Day Prayer to be one of the most moving that I have ever heard.

  10. tgusa Says:

    Interesting. Anti constitutionalists ruling on the constitution. I really don’t know who the courts represent today. Its not the constitution and its not the people. Heck, the supreme court does not even have a judge who would be seen to represent me. Just like the entire gubmint, taxation and no representation. It may be that the only way to save America is by splitting it up.If they are against this but for the anti constitutional status quo that should tell you everything you need to know about them.

  11. Jeremiah Says:

    “If you are an Atheist, you are free to opt out. No one is going to put you in jail for exercising your beliefs”

    The National Day of Prayer was a day in which the government promoted prayer. Prayer is a religious exercise that is not practiced by all religions. If the government declared a “National Day of Abstinence in Religious Observance”, you would be up in arms about it.

    Furthermore, why is it even necessary to have a National Day of Prayer? You’ve already said that people need not take part, so it seems to me that people who will pray, will pray, and people who will not pray, will not pray, regardless of whether there is a day designated by a secular body (the government).

  12. Big Frank Says:

    I always felt it was about freedom of religion not freedom from religion. As others have stated no one is begging anyone to participate,just keep away and let us enjoy our religious freedom.

    Big Frank, I love ya brother but you have to stop posting with broken links. You do not have to place a url to post, just leave it blank. From now on, I will replace broken links with an active link to something disgusting. Childish on my part but it usually does not take long before people learn to obey the admin.

  13. Alverant Says:

    If the DoP is open to all religions, then why have non-christians been banned from DoP events?

    Any REAL American recognizes the DoP for what it is, an attempt for christians to force their cult on a secular nation and violate the Constitution.


    • Non-Christians banned from DoP events?

      Please, by all means, give me a URL link to that story.

      Go ahead, I’ll wait.

      In the meantime, might I recommend you lay off the crack?

      Cheers

  14. jim Says:

    If anyone has any doubts of where Thomas Jefferson stands on this subject, you have to read;

    “Letter To Rev. Samuel Miller”
    By; Thomas Jefferson (January 23, 1808)

    [QUOTE]”Sir, — I have duly received your favor of the 18th and am thankful to you for having written it, because it is more agreeable to prevent than to refuse what I do not think myself authorized to comply with. I consider the government of the U S. as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment, or free exercise, of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the U.S. Certainly no power to prescribe any religious exercise, or to assume authority in religious discipline, has been delegated to the general government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority. But it is only proposed that I should recommend, not prescribe a day of fasting & prayer. That is, that I should indirectly assume to the U.S. an authority over religious exercises which the Constitution has directly precluded them from. It must be meant too that this recommendation is to carry some authority, and to be sanctioned by some penalty on those who disregard it; not indeed of fine and imprisonment, but of some degree of proscription perhaps in public opinion. And does the change in the nature of the penalty make the recommendation the less a law of conduct for those to whom it is directed? I do not believe it is for the interest of religion to invite the civil magistrate to direct it’s exercises, it’s discipline, or it’s doctrines; nor of the religious societies that the general government should be invested with the power of effecting any uniformity of time or matter among them. Fasting & prayer are religious exercises. The enjoining them an act of discipline. Every religious society has a right to determine for itself the times for these exercises, & the objects proper for them, according to their own particular tenets; and this right can never be safer than in their own hands, where the constitution has deposited it.

    I am aware that the practice of my predecessors may be quoted. But I have ever believed that the example of state executives led to the assumption of that authority by the general government, without due examination, which would have discovered that what might be a right in a state government, was a violation of that right when assumed by another. Be this as it may, every one must act according to the dictates of his own reason, & mine tells me that civil powers alone have been given to the President of the U S. and no authority to direct the religious exercises of his constituents.

    I again express my satisfaction that you have been so good as to give me an opportunity of explaining myself in a private letter, in which I could give my reasons more in detail than might have been done in a public answer: and I pray you to accept the assurances of my high esteem & respect.”[END QUOTE]

    Even a suggestion of prayer by governmental authority could be taken to mean you MUST pray.

    Why do you need to have the government even request that you pray on a certain day? You have the right to pray, so pray!


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