Russia Amends Obama’s STOP Treaty with Another Escape Clause—Effectively Nullifying It

Well, since the treaty already has a clause written into it which allows us to pull out if our “supreme interests” are jeopardized, I’d say that our supreme interests are being jeopardized by the treaty itself.  Therefore, no need to honor the damn thing.

Hey, just thinking like a Russian and not a stupid red-diaper-doper-baby like Obama:

Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

By Steve Gutterman  – via Yahoo News

MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russia’s parliament moved closer to approving a landmark arms reduction treaty with Washington Friday by amending domestic legislation to stress that Moscow could withdraw from the pact if it felt threatened by the West.

The amendments required for Russia to ratify the New START treaty do not change the pact itself and were introduced before the second of three ratification votes in the State Duma, the lower house of parliament.

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New START will commit each side to ceilings of 1,550 warheads on deployed strategic missiles and bombers within seven years and establish verification rules to replace those that expired in 2009 with the 1991 START I treaty.

Analysts say rejection of the treaty by Russia’s parliament, dominated by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s ruling United Russia party, is out of the question. The amendments enabled Russia to underscore how it views the pact.

Which is to say, they want it because it severely cripples America while giving them the upper hand, yet they have no intentions of being bound by their side of the treaty.   Gee, like no one saw that one coming…

Furthermore, when a country decides to amend a treaty with a clause which “underscores” a clause already embedded within the treaty itself, one would be wise to carefully analyze the language of said amendment.  But, we’re talking about the Lefturd Obama administration, here.  They don’t give a damn about what’s best for America, only what’s best for their comrades in Russia.

Duma international affairs committee chairman Konstantin Kosachyov said the amendments would “restore balance” after the U.S. Senate irked Russia with its interpretations of the treaty.

The amendments stipulate that Russia could withdraw if military deployments or even plans by the United States or NATO jeopardize its security.

Um, they know, and we know, that we ALWAYS have a plan laying around somewhere that “jeopardizes” Russia’s security.  I’ll let our readers figure out what that truly means in the eyes of the Russians concerning this piece of crap STOP Treaty.

They highlight lingering rifts over U.S. plans for a European anti-missile shield and Russian concerns over other weapons it fears the United States or NATO could deploy.

A missile system that weakens Russia’s nuclear arsenal would “force us to use the article of the treaty that provides for the withdrawal of a state that feels violated in terms of security,” Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the Duma, Interfax reported.

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29 Comments on “Russia Amends Obama’s STOP Treaty with Another Escape Clause—Effectively Nullifying It”

  1. tgusa Says:

    They are making deals with the Russians while the threat has been transposed to the Chinese, the Iranians, and perhaps Venezuela. I say fatso first, Venezuela, for bringing enemy weapons into our hemisphere. These people are thirty years behind the times, its beyond amateur hour. The consequences of this bungling will be catastrophic.

  2. Ronin Says:

    Lol even the Ruskees dis that clown


  3. tgusa – about what you wrote to me the last post . Indeed some countries are trouble makers when it comes to Israel and america . But we don’t give a damn about them . Israel has good relationships with Canada , Australia , UK , Germany , Poland , Czech Republic , India , Singapore , and even South Korea .
    China is also fine with the israelis , though being very anti american . The countries we absolutely can’t stand are America’s neighbours – the Latin American countries . They always attack us and sometimes even cut their relationships with us . I’m glad i’m an atheist . I’m not related to the jewish religion and therefor not to the country itself . If you ask me , a jew must be ashamed of being a jew . I try to convince other jews I know to be ashamed of what they are and even convert to another religion , but of course those narrow minded jews refuse . Jews should just convert to christianity , and the world will be happy . Dawn with judaism and zionism . make the world a better place !

    • tgusa Says:

      I’m glad you feel that way, myself, I don’t feel as if we have any countries that I really trust. I’m pretty familiar with the history of the world and I believe that the history of the world strengthens my position. There was a time that I thought some of the countries on your list were our allies but that time has passed.

      Attempting to convince someone that they should be ashamed of themselves is probably not the best way to go about converting people, unless of course you have good reasons and solid facts as to why they should be ashamed of themselves. I don’t lump people into the same category, I try not to judge all the peoples of a country on the actions of some. I don’t judge a book by its cover and I treat every person as an individual. We are going to find out just who is who and what is what coming up here real soon, don’t be surprised when you are surprised.

      I may write a book, WWIII, the first line will be, As the Chinese Navy sailed unopposed into San Francisco Bay…

    • Leatheneck Says:

      What a bunch of horses##t boy.

      The whole reason Israel exists once again with their native tongue, never before seen in History, is due to the G-d of Noah, Abraham, and Moses made a deal with the Jewish people.

      Now, it is G-d showing he keeps his end of the deal even when self hating Jews like you spit into the eye of that which created you.

      Be ashamed you do not have the balls to be what G-d gifted you to be. A real Jew who is proud of one’s self, and worships the G-d of heaven and earth. Maker of all things, who died for your worthless arse.

      Israel should stop holding hands, and allowing thousands of rockets from terrorists, and send the moon god worshipers back to Jordan where they were kicked out for the same reasons.

      You make me want to puke SFB’s!

      • tgusa Says:

        Just a little entertainment to lighten up the mood. It seems that Leatherneck isn’t the only purdy thing in Arkansas with talent. American Digest.

        Watch out Leatherneck, israelatheist may ask you for a date! 🙄


  4. I’ve opened a new blog . You can check it out and comment : http://israelatheist.wordpress.com/

  5. Mike Says:

    Never trust the Ruskies! Ever!


  6. Leatheneck – are you a jew or something ? ’cause you sure sound like one !

    • tgusa Says:

      israeliatheist, Just when you were beginning to make me rethink whether or not you are muslim you start in on this anti Jew stuff. WTH?


      • ‘m not anti jewish . I just don’t think of judaism as a quality , unlike most jews think . I think being a non jew is better ’cause people love you . Atheists are also being despised in some places , ’cause we reject everything the society believes in . But I got no problem with that . It’s better to be neutral , than being the jew , who no one likes . The muslims are hated even more than jews (their fault) , and christians remain the world’s rulers . That’s reality .


        • oh yeah I forgot , will you please explain to me what’s so good about being a jew ? as a christian and an outside looker , it’s easier for you to judge…

          • tgusa Says:

            No I won’t, how bout that. Besides, didn’t you say, Americans are hated around the world? So really, who cares what I say? BTW, we are hated, by the scum of the Earth, as we like it. Don’t take offense< i am suspicious of all foreigners, its hard to tell which ones hate me, on the internet.


  7. tgusa , well I don’t hate you . You can be sure of that . Indeed I know americans are hated and yes only by the scum of the earth . I have no respect for people who hate america . They’re ignorant . How about asking them , is your nation better than theirs ? they won’t even be able to respond …

    And I don’t hate christians or muslims . I can critisize them though . Thinking back of the last 9\11 , I do believe the muslims should not build a mosque near the ground zero . It’s a dishonor to the families of the victims of this terrible attack . Muslims in america should have equal rights , but there is a limit . They must also respect the country they live in , and what’s sacred to the people who live there .

    • tgusa Says:

      Well thanks. I have wondered, what is the limit on equal muslim rights?


      • the limits are things like the ground zero mosque . They should realize people died in this people , they were killed by muslims and americans are sensitive about it . That’s when they should show respect to the people of the country and build their mosque somewhere else . A jew or a muslim who live in america must know they have equal rights , but as foreigners they must first of respect the country and its people . You have duties veside your rights .


        • what im saying is , the muslims have the right to build the mosque , it’s their “equal right” like jews build synagogues and christians build churches , but the limit is , not to build it on a place the ground zero , where people were killed in the name of islam . They have this limit when it comes to where they build their mosque .


  8. there is discrimination against muslims in Islam . Woman are forced to cover their heads and not show any part of their body to the public (it’s not like you’re missing anything , I see arabian girls all the time many of them are overweight and ugly) . I don’t see american girls or israeli girls covering their heads . Is it true that in afghanistan a woman was killed just because she a body part to the public ? i’ve heared something like that …

    • tgusa Says:

      Yes it is all true, beatings are also allowed, really, only an idiot would think they are not hiding something. Oh there is no doubt that they are also hiding their women from each other, because, mainly, where ever we find muslims, we find only muslims. Yes there are fortified minority populations sprinkled in but they are all constantly under threat of attack if not attacks themselves.

      I will be happy to teach you all you want to know about America, judging from your posts, thats a lot. Heres one, isnt it great, here we are, just as with slavery, getting rid of it turned out to make us even stronger, I don’t mean by the inclusion of any particular group but the institution itself was a sort of curse. Now, here we are again and it turns out that our American empowerment of women a hundred years ago will be one of our greatest defenses against islam. Its terrific to once again be on the cutting edge of true rationalization change isn’t it?

      BTW, I bet you didn’t know that the first case of slavery in the colonies was a black guy owning another black guy, just sayin.

    • tgusa Says:

      All quiet on the israelatheist front, I’m not feeling the terrificness.

  9. Leatheneck Says:

    Jews have been in Judea for the past 3000 years. How long have the so called Palestinians? Therefore, the Jewish people have a right to have their own country.

    Realize Jews from around the world have come back to their homeland after 1900 years, and with their native tongue. The first time in history. A miracle. But, not for their sake, for G-d’s sake to show he keeps his promises.

    Israel has 1/6 of one percent of the Middle East, and the moon god worshipers want them destroyed. They do not want a homeland.

    I am not a Jew, but I support Israel. I just wish they would destroy their enemy’s, and send them back to Jordan. The ones that keep shooting rockets, murdering Jewish women and children, and those same ones who danced in the street after 9-11.

    How can you prove a negative? You state there is no G-d. That is really stupid.

    • tgusa Says:

      I think he got mad and went away. Do you think someone living in the ME could be that ignorant of islamic customs? I find that, well, hard to believe.

      • Leatheneck Says:

        No. Do you see any clinical signs within the posts? For example: Flat out crazy,
        Bi-polar, brain tumor, homosexuality, or warrior for Allah the moon god masquerading as a Jew.

        It is difficult to tell with limited information, but I am leaning towards the individual in question enjoys wearing a pink Thong, and shaves their leg hair.

        That’s my best guess.


  10. tgusa – based on my experience , a muslim is not even allowed to show a picture of his wife . It is forbidden . Well that’s stupid . every normal guy in israel would show you a picture of his wife if you just ask .

    Americans can relate to israelis ’cause we are just like them . We are allowed to have girlfriends and have sex before marriage . I’m 21 now , and everyone I know , those who are my age or even younger , had sex with their girlfriends . Reminds you of the average american guy ?


    • and there is another thing i’ve heared . I don’t know if you guys knew it , but I bet you had a clue . Christians and jews don’t want the rest of the world to convert . Muslims believe everyone should convert to islam . The “good day” or “day of the Massiah” for them is the day when the whole world is muslim , with no others . I heared somewhere and I don’t know that’s the truth , but it makes sense though .

    • tgusa Says:

      Your religion is a personal relationship with God. Your job as a believer is to live your life in a way that is viewed favorably by God. Christians believe in the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. No one sees the father except through the son, no one will see the son except those who have the Holy Spirit within them. Christianity is a, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, based ideology.

      Christians believe that everyone is a sinner, Christ sacrificed his life to absolve us of our sins, but we must ask for forgiveness and live as if we really want forgiveness. We are all sinners, imperfect, even the best of us sin, Christianity requires us to acknowledge our sin and atone for it, personally, individually. You can fool man, but you cannot fool God. Christ accepted his fate, freely, personally, individually, we are made in the image of God, we have feelings and emotions similar to God. God enjoys what we enjoy, God loves dance and music, joy and friendship.

      If we consider what God likes and then consider what the muslims don’t like we see that muslims are fundamentally against God. The muslim faith may as well have just stepped out of the Garden of Eden, for all that they believe, they wish to punish women for the original sin of eating from the tree of knowledge, its as if Christ never even existed. The Bible speaks about an anti Christ, for ages the anti Christ was thought to be a person but I believe it is an entity, a collection of people or peoples, the-anti-Christ. Someone has to be it and right now the muslims appear to be, it.

      Now that is what I believe, but I am not a muslim and therefore I am not the judge. I believe that God is angry with muslims and the misery hate and violence within their societies probably proves me right, but again, I am not the judge. Christ came and offered a new covenant. “It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”

      If you are curious about what Christians believe I would suggest to you reading from the New Testament, which is Christs covenant, Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and you will have a pretty good idea about what Christianity is. When I look at the universe and I consider the intricacies that are necessary for our existence on Earth I find it almost impossible to believe that all of this came from nothing.

      Christianity is a never ending quest to understand our God, we try to figure out what and who God is, but all the time we fail to realize that God is us, within all of us, we are all extensions of God. We are busy on our search for the the truth and the way and the light, too busy to pass judgement on other Earthly beings. “Judement is mine, sayeth the Lord”

      The muslims have taken it a lot further, they believe they are God themselves, sinners punishing other sinners for sinning, that is an abomination before God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Repent now and save yourselves before it is too late, that is my message to muslims. And No, I won’t kill them if they don’t agree.
      The Ten Commandments
      1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
      2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
      3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
      4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
      5. Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
      6. Thou shalt not murder.
      7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
      8. Thou shalt not steal.
      9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
      10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor’s.

      After all, its not that hard, to be a
      Simple Man.


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