New York Government Refuses Greek Orthodox Requests to Rebuild Church at Ground Zero

Where’s all that talk of tolerance and crap?  What?  Crickets?  I thought so.  Like I’ve said before, the main reason the Left embraces Islam is because they hate Christianity.

Mrs. Bulldog makes a good point in saying, “This certainly smacks of Sharia, doesn’t it? —As in;  Islam doesn’t allow Christians to rebuild churches once they’ve been destroyed…”


Decision Not to Rebuild Church Destroyed on 9/11 Surprises Greek Orthodox Leaders

August 18, 2010 | FoxNews.com

Greek Orthodox leaders trying to rebuild the only church destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attacks expressed shock this week after learning, via Fox News, that government officials had killed a deal to relocate the church.

The St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, once a tiny, four-story building in the shadows of lower Manhattan, was destroyed in 2001 by one of the falling World Trade Center towers. Nobody from the church was hurt in the attack, but the congregation has, for the past eight years, been trying to rebuild its house of worship.

Though talks between the church and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey stalled last year, church leaders say they’ve been trying to kick-start discussions ever since. But amid debate over whether a proposed Islamic community center should go forward near Ground Zero, government officials threw cold water on the prospect of any deal with the church — telling Fox News the deal is off the table.

Confronted with the Port Authority’s verdict, Father Mark Arey, of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, said it’s the first he’s heard that.

“Negotiations did break off last year. We were expecting to hear from their lawyers — we never did. We’re still expecting to hear from them,” he told Fox News. “We’re disappointed. … 130 Liberty Street was promised to us.”

Arey was referring to the address, about 100 yards away from the original site, where the government earlier proposed relocating the church. The Port Authority and the church announced a deal in July 2008 under which the Port Authority would grant land and up to $20 million to help rebuild the church — in addition, the authority was willing to pay up to $40 million to construct a bomb-proof platform underneath.

Within a year, the deal fell through and talks ended — apparently for good, according to the Port Authority.

The archdiocese and Port Authority now offer sharply conflicting accounts of where things went wrong. The Port Authority has previously claimed the church was making additional demands — like wanting the $20 million up front and wanting to review plans for the surrounding area. They say the church can still proceed on its own if it wishes.

“The church continues to have the right to rebuild at their original site, and we will pay fair market value for the underground space beneath that building,” a spokesperson with the Port Authority told Fox News.

But Arey said the original site is no good. Archdiocese officials disputed the Port Authority’s claims, saying the church has complied with all conditions.

“It’s not about money,” Arey said. He expressed hope that the project can still be salvaged.

“This little church deserves to be rebuilt. It’s symbolic, not just for Orthodox Christians, not just for Christians, but for all Americans,” Arey said, calling the mosque debate “helpful” to the church’s cause. “I believe that people around the country are asking themselves the question — why all this talk about a mosque being built near Ground Zero? What about a little church that was destroyed on 9/11? … This is basically a bureaucratic impasse. This will dissolve in the face of the American public consciousness.”

Former New York Gov. George Pataki, who worked with the church as governor, told Fox News on Tuesday that the church should be rebuilt.

George Demos, a Republican candidate for New York’s 1st Congressional District, also has drawn attention to the negotiations. He released an open letter to President Obama Tuesday urging him to, as he did with the mosque debate, weigh in on the church discussions.

“While we may disagree on the appropriateness of the mosque, we can surely agree that it is an issue of national importance that the only house of worship actually destroyed on September 11, 2001, the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, be rebuilt,” Demos wrote. “Mr. President, please stand up and defend our Judeo-Christian values, express your public and unwavering support for St. Nicholas Church, and ensure that it is rebuilt.”

Father Alex Karloutsos, assistant to the head of the Greek Orthodox Church in America, Archbishop Demetrios, told FoxNews.com that the Port Authority “simply forgot about the church” at Ground Zero.

Fox News’ David Lee Miller and Kathleen Foster and FoxNews.com’s Judson Berger contributed to this report.

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17 Comments on “New York Government Refuses Greek Orthodox Requests to Rebuild Church at Ground Zero”

  1. tgusa Says:

    I have long suspected that the reason they have not begun to rebuild the 9-11 site is a good faith gesture to muslims. The rush to locate an islamic shrine there solidifies my theory. NYC authorities have fully buckled to the islamists. Just as
    the Bund used George Washington to deceive Americans of yesterday so too do the democrats use the Constitution to deceive Americans of today. The Constitution guarantees religious freedom. Islam guarantees no religious freedom. one of the two must go. The Constitution was created for us, not muslims, islam is by nature, anti Constitutional.

    • tgusa Says:

      Besides, I’m really tired of this law game. We are not a nation of laws, not anymore, we used to be, but we changed. So I don’t want to hear any of this law crap. It’s a running joke, not funny, but still a joke.

  2. teach5 Says:

    The question that comes to mind is why they would have to negotiate in the first place. If the land was theirs, and their church was destroyed, wouldn’t rebuilding be a matter of getting the insurance claim and rebuilding? What’s to negotiate? Oh, right-it’s New York City. Never mind.

  3. tgusa Says:

    Does anyone see any difference between primitive in-bred illiterate taliban blowing up Buddhas in Afghanistan and modern lab-bred educated progressives chopping down Crosses in America? Just wondering, cause I don’t.

    Embrace Intolerance, of the Intolerant!

  4. Steve Says:

    Laws don’t matter anymore unless it serves an agenda or purpose for lib-tards to further jack up our nation. Decisions like this will hasten the violence (inside CONUS)that i thought would not happen until 2020-2040.

  5. Vera Croitoru Says:

    What is going on here? Muslim terrorists destroyed the World Trade Center. A Greek Orthodox CHRISTIAN church situated two blocks from ground zero was also destroyed. The parisioners of this church are being told they cannot rebuild their church on the property that is rightfully theirs. And Islamists want to build a mosque near ground zero. This is an affront to all those that died on 9/11. I am for freedom of religion but when one religion is being favored over another, then we are no longer free. Our government has become a dictatorship. What is next — execusions if one resists? God help us!

  6. islams not for me Says:

    Indeed quite telling from our ‘president’ having moslem roots and yet expects us lowly ‘kaffirs’ to accept his bizzare rule?

    Let the Greek Othodox rebuild thier church NYC. We are not a sharia nation but a Nation OF WE THE PEOPLE! islam doesnt mean jack s*** to us.

    STOP kissing moslem @$$ and go back to your founding Faith!!

  7. Big Frank Says:

    All of those commie Liberals are staunchly behind the WTC area HaMosque, they have again sold out WE THE PEOPLE by prostituting themselves for a few cheap votes. These pathetic losers just don’t get it all of the butt kissing, apologizing, hand wringing, and funding Muslim oriented projects will not make them like us at all, these bums in dirty nightshirts are not dumb they will bleed every dollar they can get from the unclean, unholy, Infidel, and laugh all the way to the Sharia Bank. I have a lot of friends in social services they say these clowns know how to play the system to the max. At the same time the Greek Orthodox parish was basically told to go to hell.

  8. Lion Heart Says:

    Mr Doctor Bulldog & Ronin, What can i say! to say im horrified would be an understatment i know my Country has a disgusting tolerance towards the Muslims her in England as im sure you know full well but WOW a Mosque on that site of all places. Im lost for words there is somthing fundamentaly wrong in the Western world

    • Ronin Says:

      Many even among the elites really believe they could contain an uprising in America but they forget the police and military come from our blood not theirs. America will survive this mess; it might be missing a few states but we have been here before.

  9. Lion Heart Says:

    Ronin your Counrty America has the man power to absorbe your population is vast compaired to my Country of England, But tell me as i have read there is parts of a State in Dearborne Mich that have been taken over my Muslims and there are others. My Country has citys taken over Birmingham for one GOD whats happening to us where is my Countrys BULL DOG spirit Battle of Britian and all that. Is there hope as iv been watching Americas CNN and seen some interviews with are muslim clerics it scares the shit out of me what there saying and are spinless government aint doing shit about it but give them 10’s of thousands in benifits you see are BBC wont air that stuff as it may offend are muslim friends

  10. tgusa Says:

    Lion Heart,now this is just my opinion but, you British have bent over backwards to accommodate the muslims in Britain. You have given them every reason to become loyal Brits, but they reject that and instead turn to hating you. You Brits have done the western world a favor by doing this, you see what is going on, the peaceful loyal muslim bs, The western way is to try to be friends and you guys have shown the rest of us what that will get us, someone had to do it, I’m sorry it had to be Britain, but as they say, thats the cross you have to bear. I for one thank you for it, you may have just saved the entire western world, although you don’t yet realize it.

    • Lion Heart Says:

      It may seem that way and yes your right WE well the government NOT ME have bent over backwards and we still are even are returning TROOPS fron the muslim conflicts are being abused on there return while marching through there home towns NOT ONE AREST I MIGHT AD except some white English returning some abuse to the muslims. But i have been told Sweden has it the worst but we aint far behind

  11. islams not for me Says:

    Lion Heart

    You as a Britton must take a stand. You must question the UK Gov and do your best to change and challenge your fellow Brittons to censor, silence using UK Laws agianst any militant moslem or moslem group that goes agianst the UK Gov and UK Culture.

    That will be the start to make moslems aware that they must change thier ‘religion’ and secualrize it or leave to mecca or Pakistan etc.

    • Lion Heart Says:

      There are lot’s that try to make a stand im a member of a party called the BNP but we get no air time the media only tell lie’s about us we have taken to court the media and won but by that time the damage is done usual at election time only after the elections the say oops we were rong it’s done deliberate the Government back the media on this. Bottom line we fight we stand we take on overwelming odds but the more we fight and show what Islam is the more the media and the government back the poor hard done by muslims like there so inocent there sneking into government job’s and local government it’s looking bad


  12. government jobs are still the best when it comes to job security ~*-


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