Russian’s lie about pullout, no one fooled.

The title says it all. A few Russians will leave but like cockroaches, you never get rid of them all. No Che, I do not think all Russians are cockroaches but your military does tend to entrench themselves, especially when not asked. Politics aside, the world is not buying into the entire we did this because they killed 10 of our soldiers thang.

Will this be the start of yet another Russian land grab? Nah, this was a test and now they know we are watching. Standby and watch the world’s longest pullout. You do have to admire the irony of Chechens fighting for Russia, madness. Maybe they were looking for another elementary school to attack. (Sorry can’t help myself, Chechen solders are scum sucking weasels)

The sad part of all this is all the ex soviet states will want additional US military assurances and until the election we can not guaranty the US will honor any promises. Europe let me bottom line this for you -YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. Damn, that felt good.

22 Aug, 2008, The New Straits Times
Russia said Friday it had completed a pullback of troops from Georgia but the Georgian government challenged the claim while the United States and France called for further withdrawal.

Two weeks after rolling into the former Soviet republic, several columns of Russian tanks and troops withdrew from deep inside Georgian territory and allowed Georgian police to regain control of the key city of Gori.

But a top general said strategic routes would remain occupied and some 500 “peacekeepers” were to remain in a buffer zone around the Moscow-controlled separatist region of South Ossetia.

“The pullback of Russian troops and units passed without incident and was completed on time” at 7:50 p.m. (1550 GMT), Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said in a statement released by the Kremlin.

“Thus, the Russian side has fulfilled its obligations” under a ceasefire plan brokered by France, Serdyukov said.

Georgia’s interior ministry, however, said Russia continued to occupy areas of the country, with spokesman Shota Utiashvili saying: “It is not true that the withdrawal is complete.”

US President George W. Bush and French President Nicolas Sarkozy agreed during a telephone conversation that “Russia is not in compliance and that Russia needs to come into compliance now,” a White House spokesman said in Washington.

Bush and Sarkozy, who brokered the ceasefire accord, jointly called on Russia to “continue and complete” its withdrawal from Georgia, a statement from the French presidency said.

Russian troops, sent into Georgia on August 8 to defend South Ossetia against an attack by Georgian troops, rolled northward toward Russia, some flashing victory signs.

Hundreds of soldiers and columns of tanks and trucks could be seen moving north from forward positions into South Ossetia and Abkhazia, another Russian-controlled separatist region.

Some 50 military vehicles including tanks and trucks bearing artillery guns travelled along a main highway between the city of Gori and South Ossetia.

Hundreds of other soldiers were seen going in the same direction earlier.

Police sirens rung out across the still mostly deserted city of Gori after Russian troops left.

“It’s a very good feeling to see the (Georgian) police here. I feel so much better but things are still very hard,” Gori resident Kocha Bzshavili told AFP.

An AFP reporter in western Georgia saw a large column of Russian troops with about 80 vehicles retreating into Abkhazia.

Despite Russia’s pullout, international tensions remained high.

Moscow criticised a NATO naval exercise taking place in the Black Sea, while in New York the United Nations again failed to agree on a resolution on the conflict.

A US-guided missile destroyer was to transit into the Black Sea and deliver aid over the next few days, a Pentagon spokesman said.

The question for Georgians, whose small US-trained army was routed in the Russian onslaught, was whether they would really regain control over their country.

In Moscow, the deputy chief of general staff, Anatoly Nogovitsyn, showed journalists a map detailing what he said would be a “zone of responsibility” for some 500 Russian “peacekeepers.”

This included control of a key highway linking the Georgian capital to the Black Sea.

Military posts were to be established outside the port city of Poti and troops would have the right to deploy anywhere on the road between Poti and Senaki, according to the map.

Georgia said Russia’s continued military presence in Poti and Senaki was “illegal.”

An unknown number of combat troops also remained inside South Ossetia as well as Abkhazia, which broke away from Tbilisi in the 1990s.

In addition, Nogovitsyn said that “if needed we reserve the right to boost these forces.”

Western capitals have rallied around Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who is seeking NATO membership for his country.

NATO has condemned Russia’s military intervention and in response Russia has frozen cooperation with the Western alliance.

Russia’s military took a swipe at NATO after the alliance sent warships to the Black Sea near Georgia for exercises.

“I do not believe that these actions can seriously contribute to the stabilisation of the situation in the region,” Nogovitsyn said.

NATO described the exercises, involving US, German, Spanish and Polish vessels, as routine and stressed they were planned before the Georgia conflict erupted.

There was still little clarity about when the bulk of combat troops would quit South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

But Georgia appears increasingly unlikely to recover control of its two separatist regions.

Moscow has given mixed signals over whether it might recognise the separatist governments, a move that would likely exacerbate the worst crises between Russia and the West since the Cold War.

Russia’s two houses of parliament are to discuss the issue Monday.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) Antonio Guterres arrived in South Ossetia on Friday to assess the humanitarian situation.

The UNHCR believes more than 25,000 people are in need of aid in central and western Georgia.

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2 Comments on “Russian’s lie about pullout, no one fooled.”


  1. Ronin,

    Yeah… For all the speed in which they deployed into Georgia, they can’t seriously expect us to believe that it takes this long to pull out, can they?

    “Maybe they were looking for another elementary school to attack”

    LOL – Exactly what I was thinking!

    Cheers

  2. ISLAMSFORLOSERS Says:

    What a crazy deal. All that expansion of NATO, which should be long gone by now was bound to cause needless tension. Good thing Georgia wasn’t in NATO already-otherwise we might have been at war with Russia and for what? A couple of chunks of worthless territory few can even find on a map. Paraphrasing Bismarck on the Balkans-it’s not worth the bones of one American soldier.

    We need to get rid of NATO and make a deal with the Russians to get on board against the real threat to the whole world-Koranism. If we need to partner with countries to get something done we can do it, rather than working within an organization like NATO that’s full of Koranically contaminated countries that hate our guts probably even more than Moscow does. Sort of reminds me of a smaller version of the UN-we all know how useful that organization is.


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