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Christians and Muslims forging new bonds in Los Angeles,
Thanks to Some Misguided Dhimmwits
An article in Monday’s Los Angeles Times gushed about a new group, Standing Together, that seeks to educate members of each faith about the beliefs and customs of the other in hopes of encouraging dialogue and understanding.
Haven’t we been down this dead-end road before?
Catholics and Muslims have discussed immigration and the Koran’s reverence for Jesus and Mary.
Jesus just ain’t the Catholic Jesus unless he is the Son of God and died on the Cross. Apparently, the disscussion didn’t get far enough to reveal that the Quran denies both of these points. See Surahs 19:36 and 4:153. And, oops, Mary was misplaced in the Quran by 1,500 years, as the sister of Aaron. (Surahs 3:34-36 and 66:12).
Members of a relatively new organization called the Christian-Muslim Consultative Group have developed the program and say they hope it will become a national model. In seven sessions, the program seeks to educate Christians and Muslims about one another’s beliefs and customs, and to encourage dialogue and understanding that lead to concrete cooperative actions. The stakes could not be higher in the view of the Rev. Canon Gwynne Guibord, co-founder of the Christian-Muslim Consultative Group. “I believe that we will either perish together or we will survive together,” Guibord said in a recent interview.
Wrong. This is a false dichotomy. Did Democracy need Nazism to survive? Did Christians need the Hare Krishnas to survive? Political and religious ideologies come and go based on their contributions to society. A better analogy for the survival of political and religious ideologies is found in the Bible: “The fruit of a righteous tree is life.” (Proverbs 11:30) and “Any tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown in the fire. So, then, you will know the false prophets by the way they act.” (Matthew 7:19-20)
Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of history knows that religious tolerance is not a hallmark of Islam. The Muslim holy city of Medina was a Jewish town before Muhammad arrived. In only a couple of years, all of the Jews were either killed or banished from the town. Egypt was a Christian nation of 8 million Copts before it was invaded by just 3,000 Muslims. Today, the Copt religion is fighting for its survival.
Apparently, “Standing Together” didn’t work well there. Lebanon was once a Christian nation. Today, we are seeing hundreds of thousands of Christians fleeing the Islamic religious intolerance in Iraq and Pakistan. Where is this concept of “Standing Together” working to preserve minority religions in Muslim-majority nations? Even though between 1 and 2 million Christians live and work in Saudi Arabia, are Muslims there “Standing Together” to help them have their own houses of worship?
The Standing Together program does not include discussion of political issues, such as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or the lack of religious freedom for non-Muslims in some Muslim-majority countries.
The implication is that politics can be separated from religion with regard to Islam. Participants in “Standing Together” must avoid discussing political issues. This denies the fact that the founder of Islam was a political leader and a military leader. How can one reconcile the plain and often repeated command in Islam’s sacred book, the Quran, “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.” (Surah 9:123) with the prohibition of discussing politics? Bill Warner of the Center for the Study of Political Islam has determined that 67 percent of the Quran is about condemning unbelievers or external politics. When politics is that prominent in their sacred book, how can it be ignored?
Why no talking about the burning of churches and the killing of Christians by Muslims? This week alone, we read about such incidents in Pakistan, Nigeria, and Egypt. All of these Muslims are getting their marching orders from the same Quran. Isn’t this relevant?
“It started out, ‘I am better than you so I will show you the light,’ ” is how the early beginnings of interfaith contacts were characterized by Maher Hathout, spokesman for the Islamic Center of Southern California. “The second stage was ‘I’m still better than you, but I will tolerate you.’ Then it reached the stage that ‘I am not better than you and you are not better than me.’ Now, it’s, ‘Let us know one another,’ ” Hathout said.
This is a classic statement of taqiyah – dissimulation about one’s true religious beliefs. A Muslim may shamelessly make such a false statement even while knowing full well that his holy book says the opposite. See Surah 3:18.
The “Standing Together” movement will ultimately realize that the Muslim agenda is not so much to gain mutual understanding as equals, but to acquire respectability through its association with Christians and Jews and to protect their political agenda under the umbrella of religious tolerance. Muhammad wrote numerous “Jew-friendly” revelations in the Quran to appease the Jewish majority in Medina, but once established there, his tolerance of Judaism quickly vanished. This sinister agenda of Muslims in the West is clearly spelled out in a new book by Sam Solomon and E. Al Maqdisi, “Modern Day Trojan Horse — The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration.” I recommend that all the participants of “Standing Together” read this book and take it to heart.
“Standing” for equal Christian rights in Muslim-majority nations.
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